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Re: [Roadsters] Interesting historical note

To: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977@optonline.net>, 'Gordon Glasgow' <gsglasgow@comcast.net>, "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting historical note
From: Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:21:24 +0000 (UTC)
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That is what I remember reading about the "L" series motors, that they were=
 a Prince design which had Mercedes roots (at the very least).
Need to dig out and re-read some of my old Datsun books=E2=80=A6
Gary McComrickSan Jose, CA


      From: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977@optonline.net>
 To: 'Gary McCormick' <gkmcc@sbcglobal.net>; 'Gordon Glasgow' <gsglasgow@co=
mcast.net>; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=20
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:51 PM
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ut the L series, but I can tell you that the U20 cylinder head was a design=
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quired Prince in the mid 60s =C2=A0Jerry KrakauerSRL311 00099 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
From: Datsun-roadsters [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On =
Behalf Of Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 1:14 PM
To: Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting historical note =C2=A0Isn't the L16/L2=
4 of PL510, PL521/240Z fame based on, or a licensed version of, a Mercedes =
design? =C2=A0Gary McCormickSan Jose, CA=E2=80=9970 2000 SRL311-13921 =C2=
=A0From: Gordon Glasgow via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.n=
et>
To: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:04 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting historical note =C2=A0I have sometimes hea=
rd Nissan/Datsun criticized by Euro-centric car enthusiasts for simply copy=
ing British designs. This was somewhat true after WWII, when Datsun was mak=
ing Austin clones under license.=C2=A0But I just ran across an interesting =
note in a Car and Driver Web article about BMW, which began with airplanes =
prior to WWI, then switched to motorcycles after the war. Here=E2=80=99s th=
e quote:=C2=A0=E2=80=9C1928: To enter the car business, BMW bought the Dixi=
 Automobil Werke, which was building Austin Sevens under license.=E2=80=9D=
=C2=A0Gordon GlasgowRenton, WA=C2=A0
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3_16_0_ym19_1_1463170571785_3547">That is what I remember reading about the=
 "L" series motors, that they were a Prince design which had Mercedes roots=
 (at the very least).</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463170571785_3584"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463170571785_3589">Need to dig out=
 and re-read some of my old Datsun books=E2=80=A6</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
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t;">Don=E2=80=99t know about the L series, but I can tell you that the U20 =
cylinder head was a design licensed by Prince Motors from Mercedes that Nis=
san inherited when they acquired Prince in the mid 60s</span></div><div cla=
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n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">SRL311 00099</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Datsun-roadsters [mailto:datsun-roadsters-boun=
ces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters=
<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 13, 2016 1:14 PM<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>To:</b> Gordon Glasgow; Roadster List<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Roadsters] Interesting historical note</span></div></div></div><di=
v class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div id=3D"yiv90369516=
37yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463150784450_90263"><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Isn't the=
 L16/L24 of PL510, PL521/240Z fame based on, or a licensed version of, a Me=
rcedes design?</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9036951637yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1463150784450_90265"><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"backgro=
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tyle=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Gary McCormick</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9=
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n Jose, CA</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9036951637yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463=
150784450_90259"><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white;"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">=E2=80=9970 2000 SRL311-13921</sp=
an></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9036951637yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463150784450_9023=
0"><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.25in;backg=
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Gordon Glasgow via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
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s@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 13, 20=
16 9:04 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Roadsters] Interesting histor=
ical note</span><span style=3D""></span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv903695163=
7yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463150784450_90267"><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></div><div id=
=3D"yiv9036951637"><div id=3D"yiv9036951637yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463150784450_=
90271"><div id=3D"yiv9036951637yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463150784450_90270"><div>=
<div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"">I have sometimes heard Nissan/Datsun criticized by Euro-centric car=
 enthusiasts for simply copying British designs. This was somewhat true aft=
er WWII, when Datsun was making Austin clones under license.</span></div></=
div><div><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">=
<span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv9036951637M=
soNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">But I just ran acros=
s an interesting note in a Car and Driver Web article about BMW, which bega=
n with airplanes prior to WWI, then switched to motorcycles after the war. =
Here=E2=80=99s the quote:</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv903695163=
7MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div=
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class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D=
"">=E2=80=9C1928: To enter the car business, BMW bought the Dixi Automobil =
Werke, which was building Austin Sevens under license.=E2=80=9D</span></div=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv9036951637MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white=
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