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RE: Tires (Again)

To: "'Bob Kramer'" <rgk@flash.net>, "'Wes Dayton'"
Subject: RE: Tires (Again)
From: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:15:03 -0700
Sounds like the same-old, same-old Dunlops. I have a lot of races on the
Dunlops Peyote has to wear when we go to HMSA territory. They look brand
new. I hate 'em.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Kramer [mailto:rgk@flash.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Bill Babcock; 'Wes Dayton'; Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: Tires (Again)

I have the new Dunlop 205-60-15 D84J's. I can't say that I really like
them.
I get the same lap times with them that I get with the Hooiser 5.50-15's,
slower than the Yokes by far. They have a tendency to overheat one or both
of the front tires. Seems to me that the compound just isn't sticky enough
and the front tire that takes the most abuse starts to lose grip as the
race progresses. On my TR4, I got them set so that both the rears and one
front would temp out pretty even across the tire arfter 15 or 20 minutes
racing but the outside left or right front (depending on which track)
would overheat, and raise up 5 or 7 pounds obove the rest. On the track
this means that I can't get it to turn as the race progresses. These tires
are advertised as race tires but may be more suitable to the street! On
the other hand, they still look pretty new after a bunch of track time.
Bob Kramer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
To: "'Wes Dayton'" <oilyrag@hsrca.org.au>; "Friends of Triumph"
<fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Tires (Again)


> That's pretty expensive. I think the last set of four I bought were 
> about $450, but I have a very leaky memory. Must be a bad seal.
>
> I suspect you'll like the Hoosiers a lot, though your lap times will 
> probably not be as good as the A008s. Those are really great tires. 
> Kuhmos are a pretty good tire, though the spec tire that they run in 
> the Speed Channel events (forgot the name, another leak) are pretty 
> bad. They feel greasy as hell once they heat up. I only drove that car 
> once, so I don't really know if it was the car, the tires, or the
driver.
>
> What ever happened to the new Dunlop's?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Dayton [mailto:oilyrag@hsrca.org.au]
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:44 PM
> To: Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Tires (Again)
>
> It's been a little while since we've discussed tires. My now-bald 
> A008Rs mean I have to do something. The Australian rules are pretty 
> restrictive and for TR3As it boils down to a minimum 60-profile and 
> 185/15 size. We were running on 195/15 A008Rs which were technically 
> not allowed but because of the lack of choice were sort of "allowed".
>
> Tires currently available that are even worth looking into seem to be:
>
> 1) Hoosier Vintage TDs 500/15. And these cost $A350 each. At the 
> current conversion rate that makes them about $US240.
>
> 2) Kuhmo Ecsta V711 (185/15 size is a 65% profile). However, they will 
> not import them to Australia (insufficient volume). Nonetheless, if 
> anyone has experience with these I'd be interested - maybe if we kick 
> up enough fuss we could get some.
>
> I know there has been talk about an Yokohama A032R-replacement with 
> more size options, but that seems to have dried up.
>
> Given all that, a couple of questions:
>
> 1) What do you pay for a 500/15 Vintage TD?
>
> 2) Any other ideas?
>
> Wes Dayton - TR3A

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