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Re: [FOT] new race track design

To: "Mike Jackson" <grandwazoo@earthlink.net>,
Subject: Re: [FOT] new race track design
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:34:28 -0700
So, we know he wife a was a ood racer.  Did he ever talk to her about passing
zpnes?

Never Be beaten by Equipment
Kas Kastner
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mike Jackson
  To: Jack W. Drews ; fot@autox.team.net
  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [FOT] new race track design


  I agree!  Take it up with Alan Wilson, the designer of the vast majority of
new road courses.  Cant help but wonder what he has as his design criteria.

  Mike Jackson

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
  >Sent: Jul 11, 2006 9:49 AM
  >To: fot@autox.team.net
  >Subject: [FOT] new race track design
  >
  >Some personal musings, just for a discussion starter:
  >
  >I am really pleased to see the number of new tracks that have opened
  >in the USA in the last couple of years.
  >
  >At the same time, I am genuinely disappointed at the layout of most
  >of them. From a driver's standpoint, a good track needs several
  >things to be fun and challenging. These include straights where you
  >can go fast plus corners that are challenging. But a road course also
  >needs to have more than one place in its two mile length where safe
  >passing is possible.
  >
  >It seems to me that in our racing, almost no passing occurs in a
  >stretch of road that is a continuous sequence of relatively tight
  >connected corners. Fun to drive, but not fun to race. There is a
  >distinction between the two. Most of these new tracks have one
  >straight and then the rest of the real estate is filled with
  >continuously connected corners. Examples are Mid America at Council
  >Bluffs, Gingerman to a degree, and nearly all of the private club tracks.
  >
  >Most older tracks that I can think of had multiple passing
  >opportunities. Think of Road America, Watkins Glen, and VIR as
  >examples. Granted, these are all bigger tracks where it is easier to
  >design what I'm talking about, and the new ones are much shorter.
  >However, most of the older shorter tracks, that are about two miles
  >in length, have multiple passing opportunities too  -- like Mosport,
  >Grattan, Lime Rock, Willow Springs, Portland, Blackhawk, and more.
  >
  >Not that we can do anything about it. Just an observation.
  >
  >
  >uncle jack
  >
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