In Portland, Oregon, I was able to get the same Valvoline (VV851) from
Baxter Auto Parts. They had it in the warehouse, not on the shelf, so I was
able to get it the same day as I ordered it. Price was $5.09 a quart and
the description on the receipt is 20W50 RACE NOT STREET. Baxter has a store
very close to Portland Intl Raceway, so this is convienent for us racer
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I ordered Valvoline 20W50 Racing Conventional (not street legal) Motor Oil,
VV851) on Amazon.com. I ordered 2 cases thinking I was getting 12 count
cases and a really good price. The case count is only 6 so I paid $6.91 a
quart. The box is cool though, says boldly "Not street Legal".
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> OK, I have been doing a lot of research on this very important oil
> We all need it, so I guess this is about one of the most critical
> for our engines.
> As you know, the oil companies have drastically cut-back on the ZDDP
> Zinc & Phosphrous) anti-wear additives found in modern motor oils.
> The general consensus of opinion seems to be that just about anything
> 'SM' does NOT have sufficient additives for our flat-tappet engines.
> SAE20W50 is the recommended viscosity for the majority of our Triumph
> It seems that we have little in the way of choice:
> Three companies products keep coming up:
> A) Amsoil
> B) Redline
> C) Valvoline
> These companies still produce some high quality, non-SM products.
> such as:
> A) Amsoil 20W50 Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Oil, (code TRO)
> B) Redline 20W50 High Performance Synthetic Motor Oil.
> C) Valvoline 20W50 Racing Synthetic (not street legal) Motor Oil,
> C2) Valvoline 20W50 Racing Conventional (not street legal) Motor Oil,
> So far as I can see, these oils are not widely advertised, nor are
> they commonly available 'off the shelf' in your friendly motor
> They may be ordered directly from the manufacturers, and the costs of
> the synthetics seem to be roughly similar at just under $10/quart, or
> Amsoil being distributed the way it is, multi-level etc, seems to
> hype, but being the cynical chap that I am, I believe about 10% off it.
> Do any of you fine fellows have any opinions on the
> of any of these products?
> Do tell.
> Best Regards to all
> Leon F Guyot
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