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Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Poster VTR & FoT

To: britbits@netzero.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Poster VTR & FoT
From: Herald948@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:06:00 EDT
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In a message dated 9/24/2008 12:14:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
britbits@netzero.com writes:

To what point?...  

There are members on this  list who are die hard VTR members.  There are 
folks on this list who  maybe are a bit... ambivalent about the VTR.  At  best. 
So... as a former VTR  president.. what are you proposing?  And what are the 
requirements, and  dues?
 
I rule nothing out  before looking at it..  Maybe I won't like what I see  
though.

 
==AM==
I wasn't seriously proposing anything, just kinda tossing out the idea  since 
I understand there's been recent talk about expanding such affiliations in  
VTR. Blake and other current members of the Board would be the ones to talk 
more  about it.
 
Following "traditional" Chapter guidelines as per VTR's Constitution and  
Bylaws, it would actually "require" little more than at least 10 members of the 
 
group also being current VTR members. What would it gain FoT? Probably very  
little, particularly since the most formal aspect of FoT is its informality. 
;-)  But it might gain VTR more; I don't know....
 
In another post, you wrote: "I think it's in  the VTR interest to recognize 
the racing community, as it's one way to keep the  cars in front of the general 
public.  I'm just waiting to see what form  that recognition will take."
 
That recognition has been there in VTR for  quite some time now. As you note, 
there are "prepared" categories in the  Concours at National Conventions as 
started in 1997. Our own Joe Alexander has  served as the "Racing" vehicle 
consultant for VTR, listed right there in the  magazine with all of us other 
Triumph model-specific "experts"! In recent years,  coverage of FoT-related 
events 
and cars has been quite good in _The Vintage  Triumph_ magazine. Maybe all 
that's more than enough, rather than make any FoT  members uncomfortable by, in 
any way, formalizing the organization by virtue of  a stronger and more 
official connection with a group such as VTR?
 
Heck, I'm getting to the point where I tend  to follow the philosophy of 
Groucho Marx regarding organizations, in that at  best I'm wary of joining most 
groups that might welcome me as a member! :-)   

--Andy  Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so  much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph 
Herald engine with wings.
--  Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D140574622-24092008>Heck, I'm getting to the point where I=
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