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Re: [Fot] Reproduction Steering Racks

To: Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Reproduction Steering Racks
From: TR4 Tony <tr4.tony@virgin.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:09:08 +0000
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White sticker on the main tube as I recall.

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> On 7 Nov 2013, at 13:51, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com>
wrote:
>
> I use that quick rack from Moss in my TR3 as well. I sure will take a close
look at it now. Is there a made in Argentina stamp on the housing somewhere
that i should look for?
>
> Thanks for the heads up.
>
> Greg
>
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Chuck WATSON <clw2000@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Serious stuff!  Is that the quick-ratio unit from Moss USA?  That one,
they
>> claim, is a heavy duty unit designed for competition.  I have their unit
for a
>> Spit/GT6 application and would like to figure out if the issues are
universal.
>> If possible, please email or post some pics on the Facebook site so we can
see
>> exactly the areas you have identified.  Thanks for the info Tony.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chuck Watson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: tr4.tony@virgin.net
>>> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:59:48 +0000
>>> To: fot@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Fot] Reproduction Steering Racks
>>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> I thought I'd give you all a heads up on my position with reproduction
TR4
>>> steering racks made in Argentina and supplied by MOSS or via others.
>>>
>>> I have had another near lethal failure this weekend on the Rally of the
>> Tests,
>>> costing me a high placing and a class win as well as the car or worse.
>> People
>>> could have been hurt very badly. This is the second time.
>>>
>>> The issues are threefold in my experience, the first two are serious
safety
>>> matters hence my email to this group.
>>>
>>> 1. The main steel rack tube is pressed without any notching or machined
>>> scoring into the alloy pinion housing, meaning that on left hand lock the
>> rack
>>> tube parts from the housing and control is lost. This is because the rack
>> has
>>> nothing to bear against and therefore the wheels end up pointing in
>> opposite
>>> directions. The alloy housing appears to be made from a material of
>>> insufficiently high quality in my opinion and the press fit is poor.
>>>
>>> I am aware of 7 failures now, 6 on competition cars, one of which was
mine
>> and
>>> which I was lucky to walk away from.
>>>
>>> 2. The nut and spring on the top of the pinion housing (which allows the
>> rack
>>> preload / play to be adjusted) unwinds and falls off, causing loss of
>> control
>>> and excessive play in the rack, as well as ingress of material as it's
open
>> to
>>> the atmosphere. This is another potentially lethal failure mode and
caused
>>> because the peening of the pinion housing / nut fails and the nut just
>> spins
>>> itself off. Again my opinion is that this is due to poor material, design
>> and
>>> manufacturing.
>>>
>>> I am aware if two such failures now, one on my car again which we were
>> lucky
>>> to survive unscathed.
>>>
>>> The cast alloy pinion housings also appear to be poorly cast, with blow
>> holes
>>> evident in the assembly indicating poor material, process and quality
>>> control.
>>>
>>> 3. There is a third problem in that the threads on ends of the rack are
not
>>> cut properly, so track rod ends will not fit. Theses need to recut and
>> again
>>> is evidence of poor manufacturing and dimensional control.
>>>
>>> I am working with TR Enterprises in the UK to develop a short term fix
>> (which
>>> we have done) and ultimately have some racks made that are fit for
purpose,
>>> however meantime my opinion is that anyone who has one of these 'Made in
>>> Argentina' steering racks should talk to their supplier and satisfy
>> themselves
>>> of their safety in use.
>>>
>>> I for one will not be using such a rack in an unmodified form and will
>> replace
>>> it as soon as is possible with a product that is designed to be safe in
>> use.
>>>
>>> Needless to say I wish to discuss this with MOSS and I am awaiting their
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tony
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