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Steve...
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Memories. I certainly know Denny, and I knew Pop Wilson as well. =20
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Pop used to come visit our paddock when we raced the GATEWAY HISTORICS (an =
early Joe Marchetti event). Pop was a sort of TRIUMP icon and visiting his=
place was full of 'special' TRIUMPH treasures. Back in those days any imp=
rovements you made to your car had to be from TRIUMPH, and POP still had th=
at stuff.
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Bill Dentinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Borowski <biznzman@pacbell.net>
To: Kenneth Knight <kknight@klaenv.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 1:01 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Photos
Hello Ken,=20
My TR4 is a 1963 (original titled as a 1962 ?). I bought it around 1982 fro=
m Pop Wilson, father of Deny Wilson (SCCA Nationals winner in a TR6 back in=
the 80 & 90s). It has had many owners and raced in many organizations. The=
last time I raced it was 1989 in the last race at riverside raceway in CA.=
A four hour endurance race then they closed the track permanently. The car=
has a long history as a race car as early as 1964. Its been siting at my h=
ome in San Diego under cover for 26 years. Recently my son and I tore it do=
wn to the bare frame and are rebuilding every single part of it. So I am lo=
oking for input from others as to modifications & improvements. Naturally I=
will need many parts and will contact you and others as we move along. We =
are finished with modifying the frame and have painted it BRG. I have just =
got the rear end housing back, modified to take ford type HD axils. I am cu=
rrently installing a limited slip (Locker) with a 4:11 gear. I am building =
the leaf spring pack now. Do you know which extra spring to add to the pack=
? I read to use one extra middle size spring but I think it would be better=
to use one extra longest spring (cut of the ends) as the car does bottom o=
ut on the frame and the old Blue Streak 15 inch tires would burn the stock =
fender flair. The longer spring should help to limit the full travel, I thi=
nk?=20
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Yes I have purchased the HD front axils and will get the Goodparts aloy hub=
s with the bigger bearings. I have a pair of TR6 uprights which I have take=
n the old small axils out. Yes the steering rack will be solid mounted and =
I will shim it to make it as level as possible. I assume I will use the TR6=
smaller caliper brackets and get all new calipers, disks and brakes. Any s=
uggestions? I have torn the motor down and it looks in good shape. It had a=
G3 cam and modified stock pistons. I rebuilt it many times thirty years ag=
o. I=E2=80=99m sure Ill be updating as many parts as possible, cam, pistons=
, crank improvement / seal, etc. So send me your latest list of parts. I ha=
ve three old broken race transmissions, two of them A type OD. I will try t=
o make one good one or move to the Toyota trans, TBD. The body goes to the =
shop next month after I have sandblaster the entire car to bare metal. I li=
ke the side air exhausts you put on your car! Did you use some existing duc=
t. If so what is it? If you just cut the fender please send me the measurem=
ents and a couple of pictures as I want to do the same.=20
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I will look up the steering arms and will send you a picture. If I don=E2=
=80=99t use them and they are the ones your looking for, Im sure we can wor=
k something out. =20
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I=E2=80=99ll send some pictures of the car in the next e-mail if I can figu=
re out how this MAC works?=20
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Thank You,=20
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Steve=20
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On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Kenneth Knight < kknight@klaenv.com> wrot=
e: =20
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Steve: =20
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So what year TR is your racer? =20
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There are several steering arms, possible 3 or 4 as far as I can tel=
l. I think you received an email about this from another FOT member. The =
length is the difference. Moss used to sell a TR Parts manual that had all=
of the original part #=E2=80=99s in it, not sure if it still available. I=
t is not so much that that length will influence bump steer (except in amou=
nt of movement due to length of arm) it is the positon of the rack in relat=
ion to the arm. Your steering rack should be mounted on those aluminum blo=
cks that are sold (Moss 667-288), not soft mounts. Then you set suspension=
at ride height of race car and shim from there. In the picture I have sen=
t I converted my quick steer rack to rod ends. Then I use steel spacers to=
get rack arms level with suspension in the static resting position. This =
will get rid of most, not all, of bump steer. It also depends on how much =
travel you have, which is related to length of springs, sway bars and a h=
ost of other issues. Getting rid of bump steer with stock tie rod ends is =
hard because they are tapered and you can=E2=80=99t shim them. That is why=
I converted my rack. =20
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The arms that I use have part #3758 (left) and if you wind up having=
, but not needing, this arm I would buy it. =20
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Oh, and make sure you upgrade to new HD stub axle (661-293). Those =
45+ year old axles can snap in a race car and hurt you! Plus they flex and=
screw up your braking. =20
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Shameless commerce (as tappet brothers on NPR used to say) and just =
to let you know. I have a side TR racing parts business. I supply alum di=
stributor pedestals, new race cams, timing gears, ported heads and other pa=
rts. I am also a Moss distributor, my cost is around 25% of retail and I c=
harge +10% over invoice for parts and they can be dropped shipped to you. =
I use PayPal. =20
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I attached a photo of my car with Kastner and the Kastner Cup which =
I won at Road America in 2013. Always happy to help a fellow racer if I ca=
n. =20
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Cheers, Ken =20
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From: John Ellis [mailto:jellis@klaenv.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:15 AM
To: 'Kenneth Knight'
Subject: Photos =20
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Here you go. =20
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John Ellis, GISP =20
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GIS Manager =20
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Knight & Leavitt Associates, Inc. =20
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4105 Wagon Trail Ave =20
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Las Vegas, NV 89118 =20
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Email: jellis@klaenv.com =20
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Website: www.klaenv.com =20
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Phone: (702)897-2628 =20
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<div>Steve...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Memories. I certainly know Denny, and I knew Pop Wilson as well.=
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Pop used to come visit our paddock when we raced the GATEWAY HISTORICS=
(an early Joe Marchetti event). Pop was a sort of TRIUMP icon and vi=
siting his place was full of 'special' TRIUMPH treasures. Back i=
n those days any improvements you made to your car had to be from TRIUMPH, =
and POP still had that stuff.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Bill Dentinger</div>
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<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"=
>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Stephen Borowski <biznzman@pacbell.net><br>
To: Kenneth Knight <kknight@klaenv.com><br>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 1:01 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Photos<br>
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Hello Ken,
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<div>
My TR4 is a 1963 (original titled as a 1962 ?). I bought it around 1982 fro=
m Pop Wilson, father of Deny Wilson (SCCA Nationals winner in a TR6 back in=
the 80 & 90s). It has had many owners and raced in many organizations.=
The last time I raced it was 1989 in the last race at riverside raceway in=
CA. A four hour endurance race then they closed the track permanently. The=
car has a long history as a race car as early as 1964. Its been siting at =
my home in San Diego under cover for 26 years. Recently my son and I tore i=
t down to the bare frame and are rebuilding every single part of it. So I a=
m looking for input from others as to modifications & improvements. Nat=
urally I will need many parts and will contact you and others as we move al=
ong. We are finished with modifying the frame and have painted it BRG. I ha=
ve just got the rear end housing back, modified to take ford type HD axils.=
I am currently installing a limited slip (Locker) with a 4:11 gear. I am b=
uilding the leaf spring pack now. Do you know which extra spring to add to =
the pack? I read to use one extra middle size spring but I think it would b=
e better to use one extra longest spring (cut of the ends) as the car does =
bottom out on the frame and the old Blue Streak 15 inch tires would burn th=
e stock fender flair. The longer spring should help to limit the full trave=
l, I think?
</div>
=20
<div>
Yes I have purchased the HD front axils and will get the Goodparts aloy hub=
s with the bigger bearings. I have a pair of TR6 uprights which I have take=
n the old small axils out. Yes the steering rack will be solid mounted and =
I will shim it to make it as level as possible. I assume I will use the TR6=
smaller caliper brackets and get all new calipers, disks and brakes. Any s=
uggestions? I have torn the motor down and it looks in good shape. It had a=
G3 cam and modified stock pistons. I rebuilt it many times thirty years ag=
o. I=E2=80=99m sure Ill be updating as many parts as possible, cam, pistons=
, crank improvement / seal, etc. So send me your latest list of parts. I ha=
ve three old broken race transmissions, two of them A type OD. I will try t=
o make one good one or move to the Toyota trans, TBD. The body goes to the =
shop next month after I have sandblaster the entire car to bare metal. I li=
ke the side air exhausts you put on your car! Did you use some existing duc=
t. If so what is it? If you just cut the fender please send me the measurem=
ents and a couple of pictures as I want to do the same.
</div>
=20
<div>
<br>
</div>
=20
<div>
I will look up the steering arms and will send you a picture. If I don=E2=
=80=99t use them and they are the ones your looking for, Im sure we can wor=
k something out.
</div>
=20
<div>
<br>
</div>
=20
<div>
I=E2=80=99ll send some pictures of the car in the next e-mail if I can figu=
re out how this MAC works?
</div>
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<div>
<br>
</div>
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<div>
Thank You,
</div>
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<div>
Steve
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<br>
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I
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On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Kenneth Knight <
<a href=3D"mailto:kknight@klaenv.com"; target=3D"_blank">kknight@klaenv=
.com</a>> wrote:
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Steve:</span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So what year TR is your rac=
er?</span>
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ize: 11pt;">
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There are several steering =
arms, possible 3 or 4 as far as I can tell. I think you received an e=
mail about this from another FOT member. The length is the difference=
. Moss used to sell a TR Parts manual that had all of the original pa=
rt #=E2=80=99s in it, not sure if it still available. It is not so mu=
ch that that length will influence bump steer (except in amount of movement=
due to length of arm) it is the positon of the rack in relation to the arm=
. Your steering rack should be mounted on those aluminum blocks that =
are sold (Moss 667-288), not soft mounts. Then you set suspension at =
ride height of race car and shim from there. In the picture I have se=
nt I converted my quick steer rack to rod ends. Then I use steel spac=
ers to get rack arms level with suspension in the static resting position.&=
nbsp; This will get rid of most, not all, of bump steer. It also depe=
nds on how much travel you have, which is related to length of spring=
s, sway bars and a host of other issues. Getting rid of bump st=
eer with stock tie rod ends is hard because they are tapered and you can=E2=
=80=99t shim them. That is why I converted my rack.</span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The arms that I use have pa=
rt #3758 (left) and if you wind up having, but not needing, this arm I woul=
d buy it. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Oh, and make sure you upgra=
de to new HD stub axle (661-293). Those 45+ year old axles can snap i=
n a race car and hurt you! Plus they flex and screw up your braking.&=
nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Shameless commerce (as tapp=
et brothers on NPR used to say) and just to let you know. I have a si=
de TR racing parts business. I supply alum distributor pedestals, new=
race cams, timing gears, ported heads and other parts. I am also a M=
oss distributor, my cost is around 25% of retail and I charge +10% over inv=
oice for parts and they can be dropped shipped to you. I use PayPal.<=
/span>
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ize: 11pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I attached a photo of my ca=
r with Kastner and the Kastner Cup which I won at Road America in 2013.&nbs=
p; Always happy to help a fellow racer if I can.</span>
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cheers, Ken</span>
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<b><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt=
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<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Ellis [<a style=3D"=
color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href=3D"mailto:jellis@klaenv.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mailto:jellis@klaenv.com</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-conv=
erted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, A=
ugust 12, 2015 9:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Kenneth Knigh=
t'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Photos</s=
pan>
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Here you go.
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">4105 Wagon Trail Ave</span>
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nderline;" href=3D"mailto:jellis@klaenv.com"; target=3D"_blank">jellis@klaen=
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