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| Subject: | Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams |
| From: | Henry Morrison <dos_gusanos@msn.com> |
| Date: | Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:09:04 -0600 |
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Boy it is getting deep now! Your car should look good and perform good.=
If all it does is run good=2C my circle refers to this type of vehicle as=
a "Roach" lots of stickers over blems. Most of the really fast stuff=2C =
looks good and runs good.=20
=20
Cheers=2C Henry Morrison
=20
> Date: Fri=2C 30 Oct 2015 15:27:52 +0000
> From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com
> To: william.tobin31@verizon.net=3B mckearn2@gmail.com
> CC: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
>=20
> I've been to a lot of car show=2C Cars and Coffee and of course autocross=
and racing events. I've seen a lot of different types of car guys like to =
think of cars guys like types of birds. If you place appearance above perfo=
rmance you are a peacock. You strut around and eventually stop to show off =
your plumage=2C and where you park at a car show is of high importance to y=
ou. Heck=2C if you can't find a good spot=2C where people can admire your w=
ork you might just blow off the show. Sure you know how to primer=2C paint=
=2C wax and polish to a glass like finish=2C but you are all for show. I li=
ke pretty things=2C I do=2C so you have my admiration. Some car guys like =
to do road trips with other cars guys. They pick a leader and follow him. T=
hese are geese. Racers on the other hand are more functional=2C more stealt=
hy. Appearance matters because it is a functional part of building a better=
beast=2C not the point of the exercise. We don't fly in formation=2C we st=
rike out and swoop=2C like a hawk. We need the perfo
> rmance to do what we do. If it doesn't look just right we put a decal ov=
er it to cover up the blemish.
>=20
> If you enjoy building engines and trannies and have a need to know how it=
works and to be assured that it was built properly=2C and don't know why t=
hose funny reciprocating buffers try to whip themselves out of your control=
you are some other type of bird. Maybe a hawk=2C maybe a hummingbird=2C bu=
t from your self description you aren't a peacock. May I suggest vintage ra=
cing.................=20
>=20
> Bob Kramer
> rkramer3@austin.rr.com
>=20
> ---- McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> wrote:=20
> > Hi.
> > I love to build cars and I enjoy building engines and transmissions =
as
> > well as all the other stuff that goes in. Body work???? now that's anot=
her
> > story. I know I'll spend way more money in the long run if I build my o=
wn
> > car but then again it will be my car...wait...am I trying to talk mysel=
f
> > into building a race car?????
> > I already have a lot of what I need to get started so I guess I'm just
> > going to go for it. So what if it takes me a few years. My last GT6 bui=
ld
> > took about ten and then I was really never done tweaking.
> > Quick before I really get going on this someone stop me........
> > P.J.
> >=20
> > On Fri=2C Oct 30=2C 2015 at 8:04 AM=2C Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@veri=
zon.net>
> > wrote:
> >=20
> > > Race ready=2C yeah=2C heard that one before!
> > > If you buy a used race car=2C take the purchase price and add that mu=
ch more
> > > to it and you may be ready for the track!
> > > The good news is that it will be set up to your liking. And your spec=
s.
> > > No regrets on my part=3B the Redhead is still fun to drive and I'm ha=
ving a
> > > blast. May not be first but it was built to last.
> > > Cheers=2C Bill
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
> > > *To:* McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
> > > *Cc:* FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
> > > *Sent:* Friday=2C October 30=2C 2015 8:32 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
> > >
> > > Race cars=2C especially GT6s=2C aren't built /set up to be competitiv=
e in one
> > > shot=2C unless you are Chuck Gee. No rush. That said=2C as much fun =
as it may
> > > be to build one=2C spending a little more up front to buy one that ha=
s been
> > > raced will probably save money in the long run. All that hardware - =
dual
> > > braking system=2C competition shocks=2C fire system=2C roll cage=2C b=
raided lines=2C
> > > heavy duty stub axles=2C spare wheels=2C fuel cell=2C etc=2C etc=2C e=
tc is often
> > > heavily discounted in the price of a used race car.
> > > You'll still need to build a good engine and do countless other thing=
s
> > > (race ready=2C ha!) but you can probably save money over the long hau=
l.
> > > Who out there has a car for P.J.?
> > >
> > > Sent from my mobile device
> > >
> > > On Oct 29=2C 2015=2C at 10:44 PM=2C McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
> > >
> > > O.K. I get it. Race car or street car. One or the other. I guess I=
'll
> > > have to build a race car and use it for track days. I just can't mak=
e the
> > > commitment to the time and money required for racing at this time.
> > > With that in mind=2C I would appreciate some help. Could I get a r=
eally
> > > low interest 30 year loan for about 50 Gs or so? Or just some honest
> > > opinions from time to time is good too.
> > > P.J.
> > >
> > > On Thu=2C Oct 29=2C 2015 at 5:15 PM=2C Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivi=
ntage.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Better yet=2C take it the full step beyond... and forget about track=
days
> > >> and street GT6's all together.
> > >> It's way more useful as a racer.
> > >> The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.
> > >> All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2 its duty both ways=
.
> > >> Spend all that time and money=2C drive on the street and have some b=
ig SUV
> > >> destroy it at a stop light.
> > >> When it come to GT6's=2C there are race cars and there are street ca=
rs and
> > >> never the two should be the same.
> > >> Race.
> > >> Full on Race.
> > >> It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all at the=
same
> > >> time.
> > >> The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will outweig=
h any
> > >> argument for the "track day concept".
> > >> If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same amount of
> > >> money.
> > >> But you will have way more fun racing.
> > >> And you will be actually racing the thing.
> > >> there is nothing better.
> > >> We will give you all the help you need.
> > >>
> > >> Jason Ostrowski
> > >> Friendly Ghost Racing
> > >> 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars
> > >>
> > >> On Wed=2C Oct 28=2C 2015 at 11:05 PM=2C McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gm=
ail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi All.
> > >>> I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some questions. First=
are
> > >>> GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable? Also what compression rat=
io do
> > >>> you all feel is reasonable. This car will seldom if ever see the s=
treet
> > >>> but will mostly be for track days? Thanks. P.J.
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> fot@autox.team.net
> > >>>
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> > >>
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=3B =3B =3B =3B Your car should look good and perform good.&nbs=
p=3B If all it does is run good=2C my circle refers to this type of vehicle=
as a "Roach" =3B lots of stickers over blems. =3B Most of the real=
ly fast stuff=2C looks good and runs good. <BR> =3B<BR>Cheers=2C Henry =
Morrison<br> =3B<BR><div>>=3B Date: Fri=2C 30 Oct 2015 15:27:52 +0000=
<br>>=3B From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com<br>>=3B To: william.tobin31@veriz=
on.net=3B mckearn2@gmail.com<br>>=3B CC: fot@autox.team.net<br>>=3B Sub=
ject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams<br>>=3B <br>>=3B I've been to a lot o=
f car show=2C Cars and Coffee and of course autocross and racing events. I'=
ve seen a lot of different types of car guys like to think of cars guys lik=
e types of birds. If you place appearance above performance you are a peaco=
ck. You strut around and eventually stop to show off your plumage=2C and wh=
ere you park at a car show is of high importance to you. Heck=2C if you can=
't find a good spot=2C where people can admire your work you might just blo=
w off the show. Sure you know how to primer=2C paint=2C wax and polish to a=
glass like finish=2C but you are all for show. I like pretty things=2C I d=
o=2C so you have my admiration. Some car guys like to do road trips with o=
ther cars guys. They pick a leader and follow him. These are geese. Racers =
on the other hand are more functional=2C more stealthy. Appearance matters =
because it is a functional part of building a better beast=2C not the point=
of the exercise. We don't fly in formation=2C we strike out and swoop=2C l=
ike a hawk. We need the perfo<br>>=3B rmance to do what we do. If it doe=
sn't look just right we put a decal over it to cover up the blemish.<br>>=
=3B <br>>=3B If you enjoy building engines and trannies and have a need t=
o know how it works and to be assured that it was built properly=2C and don=
't know why those funny reciprocating buffers try to whip themselves out of=
your control you are some other type of bird. Maybe a hawk=2C maybe a humm=
ingbird=2C but from your self description you aren't a peacock. May I sugge=
st vintage racing................. <br>>=3B <br>>=3B Bob Kramer<br>>=
=3B rkramer3@austin.rr.com<br>>=3B <br>>=3B ---- McKearn McKearn <=3B=
mckearn2@gmail.com>=3B wrote: <br>>=3B >=3B Hi.<br>>=3B >=3B I =
love to build cars and I enjoy building engines and transmissions as<br>&g=
t=3B >=3B well as all the other stuff that goes in. Body work???? now tha=
t's another<br>>=3B >=3B story. I know I'll spend way more money in the=
long run if I build my own<br>>=3B >=3B car but then again it will be =
my car...wait...am I trying to talk myself<br>>=3B >=3B into building a=
race car?????<br>>=3B >=3B I already have a lot of what I need to get=
started so I guess I'm just<br>>=3B >=3B going to go for it. So what i=
f it takes me a few years. My last GT6 build<br>>=3B >=3B took about te=
n and then I was really never done tweaking.<br>>=3B >=3B Quick befor=
e I really get going on this someone stop me........<br>>=3B >=3B =
P.J.<br>>=3B >=
=3B <br>>=3B >=3B On Fri=2C Oct 30=2C 2015 at 8:04 AM=2C Bill Tobin <=
=3Bwilliam.tobin31@verizon.net>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B wrote:<br>>=3B >=
=3B <br>>=3B >=3B >=3B Race ready=2C yeah=2C heard that one before!<b=
r>>=3B >=3B >=3B If you buy a used race car=2C take the purchase pric=
e and add that much more<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B to it and you may be ready=
for the track!<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B The good news is that it will be se=
t up to your liking. And your specs.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B No regrets on =
my part=3B the Redhead is still fun to drive and I'm having a<br>>=3B >=
=3B >=3B blast. May not be first but it was built to last.<br>>=3B >=
=3B >=3B Cheers=2C Bill<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B -=
---- Original Message -----<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B *From:* Scott Janzen &l=
t=3Bsjanzen@me.com>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B *To:* McKearn McKearn <=
=3Bmckearn2@gmail.com>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B *Cc:* FOT list <=3Bfo=
t@autox.team.net>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B *Sent:* Friday=2C October 30=
=2C 2015 8:32 AM<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Six cylinder =
cams<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B Race cars=2C especiall=
y GT6s=2C aren't built /set up to be competitive in one<br>>=3B >=3B &g=
t=3B shot=2C unless you are Chuck Gee. No rush. That said=2C as much fun a=
s it may<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B be to build one=2C spending a little more =
up front to buy one that has been<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B raced will probab=
ly save money in the long run. All that hardware - dual<br>>=3B >=3B &=
gt=3B braking system=2C competition shocks=2C fire system=2C roll cage=2C b=
raided lines=2C<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B heavy duty stub axles=2C spare whee=
ls=2C fuel cell=2C etc=2C etc=2C etc is often<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B heavi=
ly discounted in the price of a used race car.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B You'=
ll still need to build a good engine and do countless other things<br>>=
=3B >=3B >=3B (race ready=2C ha!) but you can probably save money over =
the long haul.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B Who out there has a car for P.J.?<br=
>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B Sent from my mobile device<br=
>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B On Oct 29=2C 2015=2C at 10:44=
PM=2C McKearn McKearn <=3Bmckearn2@gmail.com>=3B wrote:<br>>=3B >=
=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B O.K. I get it. Race car or street car. =
One or the other. I guess I'll<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B have to build a ra=
ce car and use it for track days. I just can't make the<br>>=3B >=3B &=
gt=3B commitment to the time and money required for racing at this time.<b=
r>>=3B >=3B >=3B With that in mind=2C I would appreciate some help.=
Could I get a really<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B low interest 30 year loan fo=
r about 50 Gs or so? Or just some honest<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B opinions =
from time to time is good too.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B =
P.J.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B On Thu=2C Oct 29=
=2C 2015 at 5:15 PM=2C Jason Ostrowski <=3Bjason@multivintage.com>=3B<b=
r>>=3B >=3B >=3B wrote:<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=
=3B>=3B Better yet=2C take it the full step beyond... and forget about tr=
ack days<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B and street GT6's all together.<br>&g=
t=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B It's way more useful as a racer.<br>>=3B >=3B =
>=3B>=3B The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.<br>>=3B &=
gt=3B >=3B>=3B All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2 its du=
ty both ways.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Spend all that time and money=
=2C drive on the street and have some big SUV<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B=
destroy it at a stop light.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B When it come to =
GT6's=2C there are race cars and there are street cars and<br>>=3B >=3B=
>=3B>=3B never the two should be the same.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=
=3B Race.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Full on Race.<br>>=3B >=3B >=
=3B>=3B It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all at =
the same<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B time.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B =
The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will outweigh any<b=
r>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B argument for the "track day concept".<br>>=
=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B If you do either "properly" you will likely spend t=
he same amount of<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B money.<br>>=3B >=3B >=
=3B>=3B But you will have way more fun racing.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=
=3B And you will be actually racing the thing.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=
=3B there is nothing better.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B We will give you=
all the help you need.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=
=3B>=3B Jason Ostrowski<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Friendly Ghost Raci=
ng<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars<br>>=3B >=
=3B >=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B On Wed=2C Oct 28=2C 2015 at =
11:05 PM=2C McKearn McKearn <=3Bmckearn2@gmail.com>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B=
>=3B>=3B wrote:<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B&=
gt=3B>=3B Hi All.<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I'm starting on a=
new GT6 Motor and I have some questions. First are<br>>=3B >=3B >=
=3B>=3B>=3B GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable? Also what compres=
sion ratio do<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B you all feel is reasonabl=
e. This car will seldom if ever see the street<br>>=3B >=3B >=3B>=
=3B>=3B but will mostly be for track days? Thanks. P.J.<br>>=3B >=
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