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To: <damys@charter.net>, <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cracked Head
From: "Steve Yott" <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 08:56:06 -0500
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Dave and Alex,

Your =E2=80=9Chead guy=E2=80=9D is spot on.  The method he prescribes =
for this repair is the standard way of getting the head back into =
service.  Heat is the culprit when it comes to cracking heads.  You will =
generally find that the 6 cylinder and tractor motors both have issues =
with cracking between the seats on the rear cylinders.  That is where =
the most heat builds up and causes the damage.  Cracking will usually =
begin in the exhaust seat area and propagate from there and usually into =
the intake seat area.  If the crack is not too deep the seat replacement =
method is sound as the replacement seats are available in =
=C2=BC=E2=80=9D and 5/16=E2=80=9D depths.  If the cracking goes down the =
port area of the exhaust then welding is the best fix other than finding =
another head=E2=80=A6

=20

You are luck there was not more serious damage=E2=80=A6.=20

=20

Steve Yott

=20

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
damys@charter.net
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:16 AM
To: 'fot@autox.team.net' <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Cracked Head

=20

Started our GT6 Tuesday night to load it in the trailer for Elkhart and =
heard clanking. Thought we had sucked something into the intake. Turns =
out the exhaust seat in number 1 cylinder came loose and was pulverized. =
 Found a 1/2" crack between the intake and exhaust. Remarkably, no =
damage to the valves. Lots of seat dust on top of the piston.

My head guy thinks he can pin the crack and overlap the seats to repair =
it.  I've probably read where this has been done before but can't =
remember.=20

Has anybody done this with success?  Is there a water jacket between the =
exhaust and intake?  What are the possible causes for this crack?

Thanks,

Dave and Alex


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Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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=E2=80=9Chead guy=E2=80=9D is spot on.=C2=A0 The method he prescribes =
for this repair is the standard way of getting the head back into =
service.=C2=A0 Heat is the culprit when it comes to cracking =
heads.=C2=A0 You will generally find that the 6 cylinder and tractor =
motors both have issues with cracking between the seats on the rear =
cylinders.=C2=A0 That is where the most heat builds up and causes the =
damage.=C2=A0 Cracking will usually begin in the exhaust seat area and =
propagate from there and usually into the intake seat area.=C2=A0 If the =
crack is not too deep the seat replacement method is sound as the =
replacement seats are available in =C2=BC=E2=80=9D and 5/16=E2=80=9D =
depths.=C2=A0 If the cracking goes down the port area of the exhaust =
then welding is the best fix other than finding another =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Steve =
Yott<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>damys@charter.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:16 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'fot@autox.team.net' =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Cracked =
Head<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Started our GT6 Tuesday night =
to load it in the trailer for Elkhart and heard clanking. Thought we had =
sucked something into the intake. Turns out the exhaust seat in number 1 =
cylinder came loose and was pulverized.&nbsp; Found a 1/2&quot; crack =
between the intake and exhaust. Remarkably, no damage to the valves. =
Lots of seat dust on top of the piston.<o:p></o:p></p><p>My head guy =
thinks he can pin the crack and overlap the seats to repair it.&nbsp; =
I've probably read where this has been done before but can't remember. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p>Has anybody done this with success?&nbsp; Is there a =
water jacket between the exhaust and intake?&nbsp; What are =
the&nbsp;possible causes for this =
crack?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Dave and =
Alex<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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