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Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
From: Robert Dalziel <robertdalziel@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:45:01 -0400
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Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With accusump could pump oil up the dipstic=
k tube.=20
Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Where it woul=
d burn off like a wick.
Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out by the time=
 I got back to pit lane.=20
It took two sessions to discover that.
It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running.=20
My helmet and earplugs
Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argue with the pit marshal=20=

To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was no fire.  And even more a=
mazing how compleat the lack of air is when that power cloud hits you !
The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipstick hole , and free up more b=
reather space. =20
Now I have a hex plug .
I only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn things. After a while.=20=

It's been 25 years now that plug works great

Awrabest.   Scottie

> On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
> The 6 cylinder configuration we are talking about here has all that stuff o=
n the opposite side.
> So, it has nothing of the sort in the way.
> Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"
> Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the oil to be checked.
> One of my race cars is yellow and the other is green.
> I love them both the same.
>=20
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing .
>=20
>=20
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com> wro=
te:
>> Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=E2=80=99s all kinds o=
f things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mecha=
nic) for which you need/want tools on a race car.
>> =20
>> That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold i=
s not in the way). My race car has headers (which are in the way), an oil co=
oler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter sc=
reen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and whic=
h has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal syntheti=
c oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99  t=
in tube sticking out of the engine block.
>> =20
>> --Rocky
>> =20
>> From: Steven Belfer
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM
>> To: rjl@gt-classics.com
>> Cc: Robert Lang ; FOT List ; Rocky Entriken
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
>> =20
>> Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place. C=
hecking the oil level shouldn't require tools.=20
>>=20
>> ~Steve
>> =20
>>=20
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye <rjl@gt-classics.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I second that suggestion.  That's what I did as well.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> John
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com>=
 wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Option 2.
>>> =20
>>> All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actually s=
maller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket extension and remove=
 it easily when the headers are still hot.
>>> =20
>>> My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tub=
es removed ... on purpose.
>>> =20
>>> --Rocky Entriken
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> From: Robert Lang
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM
>>> To: FOT List
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
>>> =20
>>> Hi,
>>> =20
>>> I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, w=
hat's the consensus:
>>> =20
>>> 1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum
>>> 2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick of the=
 proper length
>>> =20
>>> ???
>>> =20
>>> In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.
>>> =20
>>> Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up with t=
hat?
>>> =20
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob Lang
>>> 339-927-449
>>> =20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With a=
ccusump could pump oil up the dipstick tube.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature">Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Wh=
ere it would burn off like a wick.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Corne=
r workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out by the time I go=
t back to pit lane.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">It took two se=
ssions to discover that.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">It is interesti=
ng to sit in pit lane . Engine running.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSigna=
ture">My helmet and earplugs</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Blocking al=
l speech and watching my one man crew argue with the pit marshal&nbsp;</div>=
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">To not discharge the dry extinguisher as ther=
e was no fire. &nbsp;And even more amazing how compleat the lack of air is w=
hen that power cloud hits you !</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">The quic=
k fix at the track was to plug the dipstick hole , and free up more breather=
 space. &nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Now I have a hex plug .</=
div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I only check it when the pipes are cold. I=
 can learn things. After a while.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">=
It's been 25 years now that plug works great<br><br>Awrabest. &nbsp; Scottie=
</div><div><br>On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:jason@multivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The 6 <span tabind=
ex=3D"-1" id=3D":wc.1">cylinder configuration we are talking about here has a=
ll that stuff on the opposite side.</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1">S=
o, it has nothing of the sort in the way.</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D=
"-1">Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D=
"-1">Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the oil to be checked.=
</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1">One of my race cars is yellow and th=
e other is green.</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1">I love them both th=
e same.</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1"><br></span></div><div><span t=
abindex=3D"-1">Jason Ostrowski</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1">Friend=
ly Ghost Racing&nbsp;.</span></div><div><span tabindex=3D"-1"><br></span></d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, M=
ay 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:rocky@spitfire4.com" target=3D"_blank">rocky@spitfire4.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:12p=
t">
<div>Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=E2=80=99s all kind=
s of things=20
you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mechanic) for=20=

which you need/want tools on a race car.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold=
 is=20
not in the way). My race car has headers (which <u>are</u> in the way), an o=
il=20
cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter=20=

screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and wh=
ich=20
has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic o=
il.=20
Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99&nbsp; tin=
 tube=20
sticking out of the engine block.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>--Rocky</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:sma=
ll;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline"=
>
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:nor=
mal">&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245);font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-=
adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"steve@artwithcars.com" href=3D"mailto:steve@ar=
twithcars.com" target=3D"_blank">Steven Belfer</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rjl@gt-classics.com" href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-class=
ics.com" target=3D"_blank">rjl@gt-classics.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"robertlangtr6@yahoo.com" href=3D"mailto:robertla=
ngtr6@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">Robert Lang</a> ; <a title=3D"fot@autox.t=
eam.net" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">FOT List</a> ;=
 <a title=3D"rocky@spitfire4.com" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">Rocky Entriken</a>=20
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</div></div></div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:sma=
ll;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline"=
>
<div>Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place.=
=20
Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools. <br><br>~Steve=20
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div><br>On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjl@=
gt-classics.com" target=3D"_blank">rjl@gt-classics.com</a>&gt;=20
wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
  <div>
 =20

  <p>I second that suggestion.&nbsp; That's what I did as well.</p>
  <p>&nbsp;</p>
  <p>John<br><br>On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=3D"_blank">rocky@spitfire4.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:</p>
  <blockquote style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-right:0px;m=
argin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px;border-lef=
t-style:solid">
    <div>
    <div>
    <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size=
:12pt">
    <div>Option 2.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actu=
ally=20
    smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket extension and=20=

    remove it easily when the headers are still hot.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstic=
k=20
    tubes removed ... on purpose.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>--Rocky Entriken</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size=
:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inl=
ine">
    <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch=
:normal">
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
    <div><strong>From:</strong> <a title=3D"robertlangtr6@yahoo.com" href=3D=
"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">Robert Lang</a> </div>
    <div><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM</div>
    <div><strong>To:</strong> <a title=3D"fot@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">FOT List</a> </div>
    <div><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick=20
Tube</div></div></div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div></div>
    <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size=
:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inl=
ine">
    <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helveticaneue,helvetica neue,=
helvetica,arial,lucida grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb=
(255,255,255)">
    <div>Hi,</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>I somehow managed to lose the=20
    dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, what's the consensus:</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum</div>
    <div>2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick o=
f=20
    the proper length</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>???</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Oddly, three engine block cores=20
    and no dip stick tubes. What's up with that?</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Regards,</div>
    <div>Bob Lang</div>
    <div>339-927-449</div></div>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    <hr>
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    haved the dipstock</div></div></div><br>
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