They pretty much belong in a barn. There isn?t any way I know of to make then
handle even the horsepower they are rated if you drive in a spirited fashion.
With a later TR4 or TR6 case and some work or a quaife dog box set you have a
prayer, but TR3 not so much. I have three or four I?d be happy to give you.
> On Mar 17, 2018, at 5:29 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I have at least 10 TR3, no syncro first gear transmissions sitting on a
> palette in an old barn, if anyone might need one, let me know.
>
> No overdrives.
>
> The few TR4A-TR6 boxes that I have are keepers with the one overdrive on a
> TR3 box that was in my TR2.
>
>
>
> Dave H.
>
>> On March 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> The early boxes aren't worth much, they have inherent weaknesses, but the
>> later 6 box is much better, especially for a racecar.
>> Glen
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
>> Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 12:42 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
>>
>> I wish, they're just old stock non OD units. from TR-3's and probably 6's.
>> I think I have about 5. don't "need" any of them.
>>
>> Cheers, Henry
>>
>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>>
>>
>> From: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:16 PM
>> To: Henry A. Morrison
>> Cc: Kenneth Knight; fot
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
>>
>> Henry... any of those gear sets you have happen to be the close ratio TR
>> set? I still use one with an A OD & could use a spare.....
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> I just can't disagree with this statement more.
>> 1. Vintage racing is dying. There are way fewer cars and races than
>> there were in 1986 when I started.
>> 2. The newer cars and drivers scarcely know what a road course is. Car
>> culture was different after '72 and especially now, just look at the current
>> Fast and furious movies that sell the current car culture.
>> 3. how many old TR gearboxes from my personal collection would you
>> like to have delivered to your place tomorrow? Or buy some of the ones on
>> ebay for $150, that seems to be the going rate.
>> 4. Clubs that accept cars from the 80's are selling out for the entry
>> fee, and in doing so driving me away in the process.
>>
>> Have a great racing season,
>>
>> Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
>>
>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>>
>>
>>
>> It is good to see that other clubs are allowing newer cars into their races.
>> VARA has been doing this for several years so that we could survive, keep
>> the club solvent and the cost of racing reasonable. The future of vintage
>> racing is an expansion to cars from the 80?s and 90?s, they are long past
>> their prime in other venues, cheap and they bring in new drivers. They are
>> in fact ?vintage?, like our cars were in the 80? and 90?s. More important,
>> these are the guys and gals that lusted for a certain hot car of the that
>> era and now have older kids and the bucks to go racing. Without these folks
>> our sport will pass along with us.
>>
>> The same is true of parts. Much of our equipment is worn out and not
>> maintainable without great cost and effort any longer. Gear boxes are an
>> example. I am down to my last good transmission case for my dog box. When
>> that goes, or the gear set is toast, I am making the switch to a modern box
>> (same ratios) that I can maintain. Like many of us I have missed races
>> because of transmission failures. Tony runs a Ford 8? because he doesn?t
>> want to get hurt, and it is bullet proof for racing, even has a weight
>> penalty. A gear box switch is inevitable if we want to keep our cars on
>> track at an expenditure of time and money that makes sense.
>>
>> There are tons of other parts that make engines last longer (and yes they
>> make more power). An old TR motor is nothing but half a Chevy Small Block;
>> those guys spent hundreds of millions developing motor parts that we can
>> take advantage of. Same is true of blueprinting techniques, there are much
>> better ways to build engines than ?back in the day? and if you read a book
>> and learn how to do it the bloody lump lasts twice as long. Last time I had
>> my motor out I could have put the coated bearings with 25 races on them back
>> in. At 36 races I had <5% leak down on the rings and valves. Started out
>> building the old school way, with old school parts, those days are over as I
>> don?t have the time to spend five days in the shop for every day at the
>> track.
>>
>> Oil. There is no such thing as cheap racing oil. Modern oil is the best it
>> has ever been and makes the motor last. I had technical help from Lake
>> Speed who is the ?man? for Joe Gibbs Driven race oil. The stuff is $18 a
>> quart but will last 500+ miles in the car (4-6 race weekends). Just change
>> the filter after every race and add on quart, total cost $30.00. I can run
>> all the way down to 27 wt. (mixing) but just run the 30 wt. racing oil even
>> at +100 degrees in the desert and the oil pressure is always spot on. Tight
>> clearances, light oil and great bearing life, well worth the cost.
>>
>> My point in all of this is that ?vintage? racing is changing, both the cars
>> and the people. We are going to have to accept and adapt or slowly see our
>> sport fade. They will always be a special place for those cars with a 50
>> year race history, prepared exactly like it raced in 1965. For the rest of
>> the grid, and those of us that don?t have cars with history, there are going
>> to be cars with certain changes that get us to the track. Besides some of
>> us are just SoCal Hot Rodders at heart with a touch of ?good ole boy? NACAR
>> ingenuity. Now I need to get back to work on that 85% scale TR-4 body in
>> aluminum, or possible carbon fiber???..Everyone have a great 2018 season
>> racing!
>>
>> Ken
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