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Re: [Healeys] Coolant change

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant change
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC)
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Thread-topic: Coolant change
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I'm going to answer my own question: the lubricant is for the seal, which is a 
ceramic against a machined metal surface (not the bearings, obviously). 


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Oh boy! A 'hot' (pun intended) topic right up there with oil and tires ;) 

'Coolant'--to my pedantic eye--is a mixture of water and antifreeze. The 
antifreeze is mostly ethylene glycol--some use propylene glycol, which is 
non-toxic but slightly less efficient--with some pump lubricant* and corrosion 
inhibitor. The corrosion inhibitor is a mild acid that gets 'used up' over 
time: 

http://www.google.com/patents/US6096236 

Usually, coolant life is expressed in miles; modern formulations can go over 
100K miles before recommended change-out, but since our Healeys aren't going to 
be driven that much time becomes the issue (iron engines will rust just 
sitting). I would say change it every 5 years or so (which might only be a few 
thousand miles of driving for some owners). 

I believe the 'waterless' coolants are mostly propylene glycol and are quite a 
bit more expensive than ethylene glycol formulations. You'd still need to 
change it out when the corrosion inhibitors get used up; IMO it's a gimmick. 

Bob 

* it just occurred to me that the only thing that needs lubricating in a water 
pump is the bearings, but the last thing you want in the bearings is water. Am 
I missing something? 


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gines will rust just sitting).&nbsp; I would say change it every 5 years or=
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br></div><div><br></div><div>I believe the 'waterless' coolants are mostly =
propylene glycol and are quite a bit more expensive than ethylene glycol fo=
rmulations.&nbsp; You'd still need to change it out when the corrosion inhi=
bitors get used up; IMO it's a gimmick.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bob<br=
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t needs lubricating in a water pump is the bearings, but the last thing you=
 want in the bearings is water.&nbsp; Am I missing something?<br></div><div=
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