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Michael and John:
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Thanks for expressing the sentiments others of us have!! My Healey is =
nowhere near concours, but I do really appreciate the efforts of those =
who help us understand what the cars are like when restored as they were =
when produced.
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Al Fuller
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:09 PM
To: John P. New <jnew@hazelden.ca>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Registry and Guidelines (was: Thanks for =
all the help)
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John, I could not agree with more with everything you have said.=20
Concours may not be for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is =
a profound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in =
the accurate preservation of the marque.
For years I found Kees contributions to this list to be consistently =
simplistic and generic and was very gratified to find that Gmail =
provides an easy way to block his drivel.=20
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M
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <jnew@hazelden.ca =
Kees,
Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me =
angry.
I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have =
seen you write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this =
takes the cake. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on =
this list to keep your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to =
yourself.
The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of =
the few secondary sources of information that can help in the =
preservation and restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in =
many ways it is THE BEST secondary source because it is updated annually =
as new information is gathered. No publication is without errors, so =
even great books by such authors as Clausager or Moment & Anderson do =
contain factual inaccuracies that may mislead a restoration. (To be fair =
to Moment & Anderson, they keep a list of errata for their book, =
available for the asking)
If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just =
have no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first =
sentence of the Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies =
and Inspection Guidelines,
"The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a =
number of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in =
restoring their cars to original standards and to encourage the =
restoration and maintenance of original cars."
This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the =
word "bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the =
publication.
So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep =
your baseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.
John P. New
London, Ontario, Canada
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some=20
> air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of=20
> severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff =
> is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and=20
> enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver=20
> and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are=20
> needed.
>=20
> To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for =
driving.
>=20
> Kees Oudesluijs
>=20
>=20
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> Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:
> > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can't go =
> > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compartment.
> >
> > DSCN4470 (1).jpg
> >
> >
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>Thanks for expressing the sentiments others of us have!!=C2=A0 My =
Healey is nowhere near concours, but I do really appreciate the efforts =
of those who help us understand what the cars are like when restored as =
they were when produced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><u><span =
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>Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:09 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> John P. New <jnew@hazelden.ca><br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Concours =
Registry and Guidelines (was: Thanks for all the =
help)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>John, I =
could not agree with more with everything you have =
said. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Concours may not be =
for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is a =
profound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in =
the accurate preservation of the marque.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For years I found Kees contributions to this list to =
be consistently simplistic and generic and was very gratified to find =
that Gmail provides an easy way to block his =
drivel. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jnew@hazelden.ca";>jnew@hazelden.ca</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Kees,<br><br>Your statement, "All =
this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me angry.<br><br>I =
have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen =
you write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the =
cake. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list =
to keep your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to =
yourself.<br><br>The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours =
properly) is one of the few secondary sources of information that can =
help in the preservation and restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would =
say that in many ways it is THE BEST secondary source because it is =
updated annually as new information is gathered. No publication is =
without errors, so even great books by such authors as Clausager or =
Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies that may mislead a =
restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they keep a list of =
errata for their book, available for the asking)<br><br>If you think =
Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just have no clue =
why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence of the =
Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and Inspection =
Guidelines,<br><br>"The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created =
by members from a number of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to =
assist owners in restoring their cars to original standards and to =
encourage the restoration and maintenance of original =
cars."<br><br>This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. =
Please note that the word "bullshit" does not appear there nor =
anywhere else in the publication.<br><br>So, following in the footsteps =
of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep your baseless, uninformed =
opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.<br><br>John P. New<br>London, =
Ontario, Canada<br><br><br>On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST =
Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>> That looks very neat and tidy. Time to =
get it dirty. However fit some <br>> air filters in a cold box first. =
Avoid the foam affairs because of <br>> severe fire risk. These cars =
are for driving. All this concourse stuff <br>> is bullshit. Use =
them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and <br>> enjoy them. =
We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver <br>> and =
rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are =
<br>> needed.<br>> <br>> To many concourse trailer queens about =
that may not even be fit for driving.<br>> <br>> Kees =
Oudesluijs<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 =
schreef richard mayor:<br>> > The 1960 BT7 that I have been =
working on is not concours. I can't go <br>> > into details right =
now but here's a photo of the engine compartment.<br>> ><br>> =
> DSCN4470 (1).jpg<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > =
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