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Re: [Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari

To: jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:22:36 +0800
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as long as you are removing the brake pads and not the calipers, no need
bleed anything.  Honestly with some practice on the BJ8, with a full pit
crew, you could probably remove and replace the rotors and pads in 5 min or
less if assemblies were ready.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:43 AM jim via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Changing "rotors" ..Changing "pads" ...Changing "calipers" ...Not
> equivalent
>
>  the ONLY time I need to open the fluid lines is when I have to change
> "calipers"
>
> All the caliper change directions I have seen advise to prefill/pre bleed
> caliper before fitting
>
> Heat? ...Use a CO2 extinguisher (you do have a current certified one in
> your shop) ...I do
>
> change pads .. c clamp to press piston back into caliper (use a large
> screwdriver/pry bar if you are changing pads/rotors)
> fluid will flow back into reservoir ...If you don't want the crud from the
> caliper back into the system, crack the bleeder valve..
> ditto for changing rotors
>
> Remove 2 pins to change pads//remove 2 bolts to change rotors/pads
>
> suspend "caliper" from ? to avoid kinking/twisting flex line
>
> remove/replace rotors ..
>
> remove/replace pads ..
>
> Piece o' cake (go to Les Schwab and watch how they do it)
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019, 5:01:27 PM UTC, Bob Spidell <
> bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I wondered that myself.   Maybe some sort of check valve on the brake
> lines and pre-filled calipers, allowing bleeding with just a couple quick
> pumps on the brake pedal?
>
> Of course, it was a movie, so maybe it was the figment of some screenpaly
> writer's imagination?
>
> Bob
>
> On 12/13/2019 7:01 AM, Linwood Rose via Healeys wrote:
>
> For those who saw the movie "Ford versus Ferrari." On the Phil Remington
> quick change rotor/caliper assembly, how do they avoid having to bleed the
> brakes?
> Just curious.
>
> Lin
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">as long as you are removing the brake pads and not the cal=
ipers, no need bleed anything.=C2=A0 Honestly with some practice on the BJ8=
, with a full pit crew, you could probably remove and replace the rotors an=
d pads in 5 min or less if assemblies were ready.<div><br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec=
 15, 2019 at 2:43 AM jim via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Changing &quot;rotors&quot; ..Changing &quot;pads&=
quot; ...Changing &quot;calipers&quot; ...Not equivalent <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0the ONLY time I need to open the =
fluid lines is when I have to change &quot;calipers&quot;</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All the caliper change directions I have se=
en advise to prefill/pre bleed caliper before fitting<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Heat? ...Use a CO2 extinguisher (you do hav=
e a current certified one in your shop) ...I do</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">change pads .. c clamp to press piston back into cali=
per (use a large screwdriver/pry bar if you are changing pads/rotors)</div>=
<div>fluid will flow back into reservoir ...If you don&#39;t want the crud =
from the caliper back into the system, crack the bleeder valve..</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">ditto for changing rotors <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Remove 2 pins to change pads//remove 2 bolts to change rot=
ors/pads</div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">suspend &quot;caliper&quot; from ? to av=
oid kinking/twisting flex line</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">remove/replace rotors ..</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">remove/replace pads ..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Piece o&#39; cake (go to Les Schwab and watch how they do it)</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-1214400317785726082ydpe4a0afe3yahoo_quote=
d_6916061521">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Friday, December 13, 2019, 5:01:27 PM UTC, Bob Spide=
ll &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@c=
omcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-1214400317785726082ydpe4a0afe3yiv1=
539970186">
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  <div>
    I wondered that myself.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Maybe some sort of check valve on t=
he
    brake lines and pre-filled calipers, allowing bleeding with just a
    couple quick pumps on the brake pedal?<br>
    <br>
    Of course, it was a movie, so maybe it was the figment of some
    screenpaly writer&#39;s imagination?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 12/13/2019 7:01 AM, Linwood Rose via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
 Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(=
255,255,255);float:none;display:inline">For those who saw the movie &quot;F=
ord versus
          Ferrari.&quot; On the Phil Remington quick change rotor/caliper
          assembly, how do they avoid having to bleed the brakes?</span><br=
 style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-deco=
ration:none;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helv=
etica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:=
normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Ne=
ue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255=
,255,255);float:none;display:inline">Just curious.</span><br style=3D"font-=
style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-=
transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica          Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0p=
x;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue=
&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:=
normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Ne=
ue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255=
,255,255);float:none;display:inline">Lin</span></div>
      <br>
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    <br>
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