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Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround

To: "'Jean Caron'" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, "'David Nock'" <healeydoc@gmail.com>, "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround
From: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:46:43 -0800
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Different powers fuse at different temperatures. I believe it is heated =
to around 450 F.

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John

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jean =
Caron
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 2:51 PM
To: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>; Michael Salter =
<michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround

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Doesn=E2=80=99t the heat from powder coating warp aluminum at all.

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Jean

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Sent: December 29, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround

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Yes we clear powder coat them all the time. Did mine18 years ago and =
still look great. A little brighter than anodizing=20

David Nock

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Sent from my iPhone

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On Dec 29, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com =

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Hi David,

I have been considering having them powder coated have you actually =
tried it?

It would certainly make life a lot easier.=20

Ikea uses a very similar finish of many of their metal parts and the =
finish is very durable and a perfect match for the original Bright Dip.

I'd love to know where they have it done.

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M

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BTW I found this on Bright Dip .... Hardly surprising that it is hard to =
find someone to do it!!

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People probably don't say much about brite dipping chemistry for a =
number of reasons.=20
First, very few anodizers do brite dipping, which limits the amount of =
response we can expect.=20
Second, there are a number of proprietary suppliers, and people may not =
be sure if a composition they know of is generic knowledge or is =
actually a proprietary trade secret they can get in trouble for =
publishing.
Third -- and most important -- those who are familiar with it realize =
this is a really, really, nasty solution that requires specially =
designed garage-door type fume containment (not conventional lip exhaust =
or push-pull exhaust), special unconventional fume scrubbers to deal =
with the wild NOx fuming and high solubility of nitric acid that =
conventional fume scrubbers can't handle, and very well engineered =
secondary containment because it is extremely aggressive even to =
expensive construction materials. This stuff running on the floor after =
eating through a 316L stainless tank is a major concern.=20

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On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:23 PM David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com =

Another option is to have the anodizing remove. Then polish the trim, =
then have it clear powdered coated=20

David Nock

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Sent from my iPhone

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On Dec 28, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Jean Caron =
<vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com =

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Ken,

There was a place in Ontario, Canada called Holly=E2=80=99s Anodizing =
but they have closed at the end of November, so I am not sure where you =
would go for that now. I know that House of Silver was considering this =
service not too long ago, will call them next week if they have decided =
to start doing it.

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Jean

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Sent: December 28, 2019 5:38 PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround

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I have been considering re-anodizing the surround pieces on a hundred =
but have not been able to find someone to perform this service. Can =
anyone on list share advice on any firm that can anodize these pieces =
correctly and or has experience with anyone.=20
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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Different powers fuse at different temperatures. =
I believe it is heated to around 450 F.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean =
Caron<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 29, 2019 2:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
David Nock &lt;healeydoc@gmail.com&gt;; Michael Salter =
&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> AH Mail List =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100/4 =
Cockpit Surround<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Doesn=E2=80=99t the heat from powder coating warp aluminum =
at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Jean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for =
Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-CA>From: =
</span></b><span lang=3DEN-CA><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>David Nock</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>December 29, 2019 4:41 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</a><br><b>Cc: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com";>Jean =
Caron</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>AH Mail =
List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit =
Surround<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-CA>Yes we clear powder =
coat them all the time. Did mine18 years ago and still look great. A =
little brighter than anodizing&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>David =
Nock<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-CA>On Dec 29, 2019, at =
2:34 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>=EF=BB=BF =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hi =
David,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I =
have been considering having them powder coated have you actually tried =
it?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>It =
would certainly make life a lot easier. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Ikea uses a very =
similar finish of many of their metal parts and the finish is very =
durable and a perfect match for the original Bright =
Dip.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I'd =
love to know where they have it done.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BTW =
I found this on Bright Dip .... Hardly surprising that it is hard to =
find someone to do it!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><i><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>People =
probably don't say much about brite dipping chemistry for a number of =
reasons. <br>First, very few anodizers do brite dipping, which limits =
the amount of response we can expect. <br>Second, there are a number of =
proprietary suppliers, and people may not be sure if a composition they =
know of is generic knowledge or is actually a proprietary trade secret =
they can get in trouble for publishing.<br>Third -- and most important =
-- those who are familiar with it realize this is a really, really, =
nasty solution that requires specially designed garage-door type fume =
containment (not conventional lip exhaust or push-pull exhaust), special =
unconventional fume scrubbers to deal with the wild NOx fuming and high =
solubility of nitric acid that conventional fume scrubbers can't handle, =
and very well engineered secondary containment because it is extremely =
aggressive even to expensive construction materials. This stuff running =
on the floor after eating through a 316L stainless tank is a major =
concern. </span></i><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:23 PM =
David Nock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>healeydoc@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Another option is to have the anodizing remove. Then polish =
the trim, then have it clear powdered =
coated&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>David Nock<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-CA>On Dec 28, 2019, at =
4:28 PM, Jean Caron &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>=EF=BB=BF =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Ken,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>There was a place in Ontario, Canada called Holly=E2=80=99s =
Anodizing but they have closed at the end of November, so I am not sure =
where you would go for that now. I know that House of Silver was =
considering this service not too long ago, will call them next week if =
they have decided to start doing it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Jean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-CA>From: </span></b><span lang=3DEN-CA><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Ken Fleming via =
Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>December 28, 2019 5:38 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: =
</b>[Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-CA>I have been considering re-anodizing the surround pieces on =
a hundred but have not been able to find someone to perform this =
service. Can anyone on list share advice on any firm that can anodize =
these pieces correctly and or has experience with anyone. =
<br>Ken<br><br>Sent from my =
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