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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw

To: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 20:29:55 -0400
Cc: Larry Wendland <bighealey3k@aim.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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HZS0405 is a 1/4" UNF  Hex head 5/8"" long l think.

M

On Fri., May 29, 2020, 7:19 p.m. Perry via Healeys, <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:

> Michael Your comment about finding 10-32 threads required an after dinner
> trip back to the garage.  I have an old section of a 100 frame upstairs a=
nd
> ran a 10 -32 screw in the 4 holes where the horns go.  Screw slipped righ=
t
> through the threads.  Checked the holes and they appear to be  =C2=BC -26=
.  A
> test with one of the screws I had on hand showed a reasonable fit.  Lots =
of
> old dried up grease and oil in those holes. Hear is where having the
> complete fastener list would help this old guy. The 100 Parts List shows
> the bolts as =E2=80=9CHZS0405=E2=80=9D.
>
> Anyone have that fastener part number and corresponding size info handy?
>
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, May 29, 2020 4:39 PM
> *To: *gradea1@charter.net
> *Cc: *'Larry Wendland' <bighealey3k@aim.com>; 'healeys@autox.team.net'
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw
>
>
>
> Chased the threads of the other three holes and found 10-32 threads.  Jus=
t
> finished drilling consecutively larger holes in screw starting with 1/16"=
.
> Finally knocked the screw inside with the last drill bit.  It was a littl=
e
> off center, but left enough of the original hole and threads to run the t=
ap
> through.  It's loose, but a little thread locker should keep it in place.
> First picture was a good start with the 1/16" bit a little off center.
> Second picture shows success.
>
>
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
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>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:05 PM, gradea1@charter.net
>
> <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Had the same issues when I restored #588...I was able to punch, drill and
> easy out the bolt after first heating the busted shank with a torch. If y=
ou
> can stay centered as much as possible and use the smallest drill which
> would take a 1/4" easy-out , you should be able to salvage the threads.
> Once you get it moving rock in back and forth as you turn it out, I also
> use Lucas Tool Box Buddy-penetrent to help it move. Early 100s used 1/4"
> BFS (photo) but by the time your car was made, it is probably UNF. You ar=
e
> most correct in saying " Nothing is easy on this car." Regards, Hank,
> healeyhelper.coom
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "Michael MacLean"
> To: "healeyrik@gmail.com", "boyracer466@gmail.com", "Larry Wendland"
> Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net"
> Sent: Tuesday May 26 2020 6:17:22PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw
>
> This cross piece has captive nuts in a rectangular box tubing.  There is =
a
> seam on the top and bottom.  The captive nuts are welded in place prior t=
o
> putting the two halves together.  No access to the screw from the rear.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 6:10:11 PM PDT, Larry Wendland <
> bighealey3k@aim.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike are there any threads sticking out on the backside of the nut? If so
> you might be able to break the bolt remnant loose with a vise grip .If it
> is threaded full length, you could continue to turn it till it comes out =
on
> the back side of the nut. At worst screw it back out on the front side of
> the nut.
> Larry Wendland
> '67 BJ8
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> To: healeyrik@gmail.com <healeyrik@gmail.com>; richard mayor <
> boyracer466@gmail.com>
> Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 6:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw
>
>
> As appealing as that sounds to shoot it out, with my resources drilling i=
t
> out is my only option.  If I (if you'll pardon the pun) screw it up, it
> will have to have a larger hole cut out and the J&B Weld a blind nut inse=
rt
> in there.  A little paint and then who will know?  Nothing is easy on thi=
s
> car.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM, HealeyRick
> <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">H=
ZS0405 is a 1/4&quot; UNF=C2=A0 Hex head 5/8&quot;&quot; long l think.</spa=
n><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"=
><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;f=
ont-size:12.8px">M</span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., May 29, 2020, 7:19 p.m. Perry via H=
ealeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US=
" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-1502476094631935219WordS=
ection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael Your comment about finding 10-32 th=
reads required an after dinner trip back to the garage.=C2=A0 I have an old=
 section of a 100 frame upstairs and ran a 10 -32 screw in the 4 holes wher=
e the horns go.=C2=A0 Screw slipped right through the threads.=C2=A0 Checke=
d the holes and they appear to be =C2=A0=C2=BC -26.=C2=A0 A test with one o=
f the screws I had on hand showed a reasonable fit.=C2=A0 Lots of old dried=
 up grease and oil in those holes. Hear is where having the complete fasten=
er list would help this old guy. The 100 Parts List shows the bolts as =E2=
=80=9CHZS0405=E2=80=9D. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyone have that fastene=
r part number and corresponding size info handy?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Perry</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:so=
lid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike=
@att.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Michael MacLean</a><br><b>Se=
nt: </b>Friday, May 29, 2020 4:39 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:gradea=
1@charter.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gradea1@charter.net</a>=
<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:bighealey3k@aim.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">&#39;Larry Wendland&#39;</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&#39;healeys@autox.team.n=
et&#39;</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw</p></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chased t=
he threads of the other three holes and found 10-32 threads.=C2=A0 Just fin=
ished drilling consecutively larger holes in screw starting with 1/16&quot;=
.=C2=A0 Finally knocked the screw inside with the last drill bit.=C2=A0 It =
was a little off center, but left enough of the original hole and threads t=
o run the tap through.=C2=A0 It&#39;s loose, but a little thread locker sho=
uld keep it in place.=C2=A0 First picture was a good start with the 1/16&qu=
ot; bit a little off center.=C2=A0 Second picture shows success.=C2=A0<u></=
u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"4032" h=
eight=3D"3024" style=3D"width:42.0in;height:31.5in" id=3D"m_-15024760946319=
35219ymail_attachmentId34488"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"4032" height=3D"3024" style=3D"width:42.0=
in;height:31.5in" id=3D"m_-1502476094631935219ymail_attachmentId34489"></p>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br></p><di=
v id=3D"m_-1502476094631935219yMail_cursorElementTracker_1590556777390"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Mike MacLean<br><br><br>=
</p><div id=3D"m_-1502476094631935219ymail_android_signature"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><a href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=
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ndroid</a></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt"><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#6d00f6">On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:05 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:gr=
adea1@charter.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gradea1@charter.net=
</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#6d00f6">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gradea1@ch=
arter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div style=3D"=
border:none;border-left:solid #6d00f6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;marg=
in-top:7.5pt"><div id=3D"m_-1502476094631935219yiv8925947801"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Had the same issues when I re=
stored #588...I was able to punch, drill and easy out the bolt after first =
heating the busted shank with a torch. If you can stay centered as much as =
possible and use the smallest drill which would take a 1/4&quot; easy-out ,=
 you should be able to salvage the threads.=C2=A0 Once you get it moving ro=
ck in back and forth as you turn it out, I also use Lucas Tool Box Buddy-pe=
netrent to help it move. Early 100s used 1/4&quot; BFS (photo) but by the t=
ime your car was made, it is probably UNF. You are most correct in saying &=
quot;=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Nothing is easy on this car.&quot; Regards, Han=
k, healeyhelper.coom</span><u></u><u></u></p><p>---------------------------=
--------------</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Fro=
m: &quot;Michael MacLean&quot; <br>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&quot;=
, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&quot;, &quot;Larry Wendland&quot;<br>C=
c: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;<br>Sent: Tuesday May 26 2020 =
6:17:22PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw</p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">This cross piece has captive nuts in a rectangular box t=
ubing.=C2=A0 There is a seam on the top and bottom.=C2=A0 The captive nuts =
are welded in place prior to putting the two halves together.=C2=A0 No acce=
ss to the screw from the rear.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"m_-1502476=
094631935219yiv8925947801yqt04383"><div id=3D"m_-1502476094631935219yiv8925=
947801yahoo_quoted_1296244707"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 6:10:11 PM PDT, Larry Wendland &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bighealey3k@aim.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bighea=
ley3k@aim.com</a>&gt; wrote: </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Mi=
ke are there any threads sticking out on the backside of the nut? If so you=
 might be able to break the bolt remnant loose with a vise grip .If it is t=
hreaded full length, you could continue to turn it till it comes out on the=
 back side of the nut. At worst screw it back out on the front side of the =
nut.<br>Larry Wendland<br>&#39;67 BJ8<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----=
<br>From: Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;<br>To: <=
a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
healeyrik@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;; richard mayor &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 6:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys]=
 Fwd: Broken Screw<br><br><br>As appealing as that sounds to shoot it out, =
with my resources drilling it out is my only option.=C2=A0 If I (if you&#39=
;ll pardon the pun) screw it up, it will have to have a larger hole cut out=
 and the J&amp;B Weld a blind nut insert in there.=C2=A0 A little paint and=
 then who will know?=C2=A0 Nothing is easy on this car.<br>Mike MacLean<br>=
<br><br>Sent from AT&amp;T Yahoo Mail on Android<br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>On T=
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