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Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experience with this battery?

To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experience with this battery?
From: gradea1@charter.net
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Further to this email conversation, I contacted Mark Hooper at RIW and=
=0Ahe assures me that the current cables are now 17" in length as a=0Are=
sult of input from customers (thanks, Michael!).=0AHe is going to modify=
 my cable to the correct length, using my=0Aexisting helmets. So I will=
 package up the cable and send it off to=0Ahim and they will correct it=
 at no additional charge! If you purchased=0Athis item today it would be=
 quite costly but correct in length:=0A11. Positive Batt.to Negative Bat=
t.Jumper Cable 73.00=0AThese are great folks to work with and are fully=
 committed to produce=0Athe correct items for Austin-Healey restorations=
. (based on what=0Arecords or input they receive). The only difference h=
e mentioned on=0Athe helmets, was that some negative cables had a small=
 drilling mount=0Athat could receive an additional aux. wire. Big Healey=
s do not use=0Athat mount but they can be found on MK1 Sprites... possib=
ly some of=0Athe cars received that type of connector if supplies ran ou=
t during=0Aproduction.=0AThanks for the input from the group to get my c=
able properly=0Aconfigured...I never knew it was incorrect until this co=
nversation=0Atook place. We were talking batteries not cables. Hank=0A=
=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter"=
 =0ATo: "Hank Leach"=0ACc: "John Harper", "Healeys@autox.team.net"=0ASen=
t: Tuesday June 9 2020 4:48:05PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have e=
xperience with this battery?=0A=0ARegarding the Rhode Island battery to=
 battery cable. =0AA few years back I encountered the same issue with th=
e battery to=0Abattery cable being too short on a BN1. The one supplied=
 was 15 1/2"=0Acenter to center of the terminal caps. =0AI contacted R I=
 W and they were very obliging, sent me a replacement=0Awhich was 2" lon=
ger and indicated that they would amend their=0Ainformation for future o=
rders.It was plenty long enough. =0A=0AI'm sure that if you were to cont=
act them they would be only too happy=0Ato help out.=0A=0AM=0A=0AOn Tue,=
 Jun 9, 2020 at 4:02 PM  wrote:=0AJohn-I never take offence on anything=
 Healey...not too many things=0Awere "standard" as is found on US made c=
ars. The early '53s had lots=0Aof differences (over 50) from later produ=
ction and BN2s. However,=0Athere is a bolt hole on the rear panel of #58=
8, as you noted, (as seen=0Ahere) but the cable supplied by Rhode Island=
 Wiring was not long=0Aenough to connect to that spot. Since the cable c=
ame assembled with=0Athe helmets and proper sheathing, I did not want to=
 alter it. I think=0Athe concours hit would be 1/2 point. and as Perry s=
aid in the scope of=0Ait all, it probably would not affect winning gold=
 status. Good eye!=0ARegards, Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------=
------------From: "John Harper" =0ATo: gradea1@charter.net [2]=0ACc: =0A=
Sent: Monday June 8 2020 11:57:11AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody hav=
e experience with this battery?=0A=0ARoland=0AI hope that you will not t=
ake offence with following but I believe=0Athat the linking cable should=
 be held up the middle with a 'P' clip=0Aand a small bolt and nut on the=
 lower lip of the rear of the panel=0ABest regards=0AOn Mon, 8 Jun 2020=
 at 18:53,  wrote:=0AI'm using the concours correct 17L, 6V batteries fr=
om Antique auto=0Abattery(now Jim's or NLE)...bought years ago and kept=
 on maintain=0Acharge. They no longer make a 17L battery. Now-a-days you=
 can still=0Apurchase a 19L battery which will fit the tray, has mountin=
g ears, and=0Ais about 1" taller than the old 17s. Reason why is that VW=
 bugs and=0AMGBs also used that same unit. As Roland says: be sure to in=
sulate the=0Abattery lid with Armacord; if the lid is distorted it could=
 short out=0Athe terminals. Otherwise it fits fine and is more powerful=
 than the=0A17L. Interstate Battery makes one available today. One 12V w=
orks as=0Awell, but you will fail concours (if that's an issue). Here is=
 the=0Abattery layout using original 17Ls in my 100. Hank, healeyhelper.=
com=0A[4]=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Roland=
 Wilhelmy" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell"=0ACc: "Healeys"=0ASent: Sunday June 7 20=
20 8:26:46PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experience with this=
 battery?=0A=0ACheck if 8 1/2" is height of case only or height to top o=
f battery=0Aposts. If height to top of posts is 9 and a fraction inches=
 you can=0Astill use in a BN1 or 2 but you risk shorting battery to the=
 body if=0Ayou aren't very careful and if you didn't insulate the unders=
ide of=0Athe door well. It fits all the other cars, though. =0AAlso, the=
 capacity of those original style tar tops is limited and=0Amarginal. Mo=
dern batteries are much more energetic and smaller, too. A=0A12volt batt=
ery that will fit the battery tray will do better than two=0Aoriginal ta=
r top 6volt batteries and cost about $50. So unless you are=0Agoing for=
 Concours save your money. =0A-RolandBN1 #724=0AOn Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 5:3=
5 PM Bob Spidell  wrote:=0A  I can't find dimensions for 17L anywhere, b=
ut this looks close:=0A=0A  [6] [7] [8]HTTPS://TINYURL.COM/Y7MPA5J8 [9]=
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<html><body>Further to this email conversation, I contacted Mark Hooper=
 at RIW and he assures me that the current cables are now 17" in length=
 as a result of input from customers (thanks, Michael!).<div><br></div><=
div>He is going to modify my cable to the correct length, using my exist=
ing helmets. So I will package up the cable and send it off to him and t=
hey will correct it at no additional charge! If you purchased this item=
 today it would be quite costly but correct in length:</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">11. Positi=
ve Batt.to Negative Batt.Jumper Cable 73.00</span></div><div><br></div><=
div>These are great folks to work with and are fully committed to produc=
e the correct items for Austin-Healey restorations. (based on what recor=
ds or input they receive).&nbsp; The only difference he mentioned on the=
 helmets, was that some negative cables had a small drilling mount that=
 could receive an additional aux. wire. Big Healeys do not use that moun=
t but they can be found on MK1 Sprites... possibly some of the cars rece=
ived that type of connector if supplies ran out during production.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the input from the group to get my cable=
 properly configured...I never knew it was incorrect until this conversa=
tion took place. We were talking batteries not cables.&nbsp; Hank<br><br=
><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------------------------=
--------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>To=
: "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: "John Harper", "Healeys@autox.team.net"<br>Sent: T=
uesday June 9 2020 4:48:05PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have expe=
rience with this battery?<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Re=
garding the Rhode Island battery to battery cable. <br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small">A few years back I encountered the same issue with the battery=
 to battery cable being too short on a BN1. The one supplied was 15 1/2"=
 center to center of the terminal caps. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I=
 contacted R I W and they were very obliging, sent me a replacement whic=
h was 2" longer and indicated that they would amend their information fo=
r future orders.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">It was plenty long enough. <br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><div><img src=3D"/index.php/inbox/attachment/=
filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX39891d2b5ca33bd970f64a6301fa7=
5ae2eb22" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"559" height=3D"231"></div><div><br>=
</div><div>I'm sure that if you were to contact them they would be only=
 too happy to help out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>M<br></div><div><br=
></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:0=
2 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank">gradea=
1@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div>John-I never take offence on anything Healey...=
not too many things were "standard" as is found on US made cars. The ear=
ly '53s had lots of differences (over 50) from later production and BN2s=
. However, there is a bolt hole on the rear panel of #588, as you noted,=
 (as seen here) but the cable supplied by Rhode Island Wiring was not lo=
ng enough to connect to that spot. Since the cable came assembled with t=
he helmets and proper sheathing, I did not want to alter it. I think the=
 concours hit would be 1/2 point. and as Perry said in the scope of it a=
ll, it probably would not affect winning gold status. Good eye! Regards,=
 Hank<br><br><div></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>=
From: "John Harper" <u></u><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net=
" target=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a><br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday June=
 8 2020 11:57:11AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experience wit=
h this battery?<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Roland<div><br></div><div>I hope=
 that you will not take offence with following but I believe&nbsp;that t=
he linking cable should be held&nbsp;up the middle with a 'P' clip and a=
 small bolt and nut on the lower lip of the rear of the panel</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:53, &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div>I'm using the concours correct 17L, 6V batteries from Antiq=
ue auto battery(now Jim's or NLE)...bought years ago and kept on maintai=
n charge. They no longer make a 17L battery.&nbsp; Now-a-days you can st=
ill purchase a 19L battery which will fit the tray, has mounting ears, a=
nd is about 1" taller than the old 17s.&nbsp; Reason why is that VW bugs=
 and MGBs also used&nbsp; that same unit. As Roland says: be sure to ins=
ulate the battery lid with Armacord; if the lid is distorted it could sh=
ort out the terminals. Otherwise it fits fine and is more powerful than=
 the 17L. Interstate Battery makes one available today. One 12V works as=
 well, but you will fail concours (if that's an issue). Here is the batt=
ery layout using original 17Ls in my 100. Hank, <a href=3D"http://healey=
helper.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyhelper.com</a><br><br><div></div><p>=
-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Roland Wilhelmy" <u>=
</u><br>To: "Bob Spidell"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Sunday June 7 2020 8=
:26:46PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experience with this bat=
tery?<br><br><div dir=3D"auto">Check if 8 1/2" is height of case only or=
 height to top of battery posts. If height to top of posts is 9 and a fr=
action inches you can still use in a BN1 or 2 but you risk shorting batt=
ery to the body if you aren't very careful and if you didn't insulate th=
e underside of the door well. It fits all the other cars, though.&nbsp;<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Also, the capacity of those=
 original style tar tops is limited and marginal. Modern batteries are m=
uch more energetic and smaller, too. A 12volt battery that will fit the=
 battery tray will do better than two original tar top 6volt batteries a=
nd cost about <span>$50</span>.&nbsp; So unless you are going for Concou=
rs save your money.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div dir=3D"auto">-=
Roland</div><div dir=3D"auto">BN1 #724</div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 7, 20=
20, 5:35 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=0A  =0A=0A    =0A  =0A  <div>=
=0A    I can't find dimensions for 17L anywhere, but this looks close:<b=
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