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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 engine on eBay
From: Ian Hey via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 22:23:40 +0100
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Looks more or less complete.

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Minimum costs will be:  clean block and resin seal (=A3200); rebore; =
regrind
crank  (=A3690 for both in Dec 2018);  new brgs, including camshaft if =
you
have dipped the block; new pistons;  head work to make it suitable for
unleaded fuel (I estimated =A31,000 minimum for this, but forked out for =
an
aluminium head); new oil pump (DWR about =A3180+VAT).  The rocker shaft =
is
expensive to fix properly =96 labour cost to ream the bushes.  You will
probably need a camshaft (=A3500+ depending upon what you buy);  rear =
crank
oil seal (=A345 +VAT, but machine shop to fit properly);  then of course =
you
will need timing chain (don=92t buy an =A38 one), all gaskets, clutch, =
and
whatever else is knackered.  The distributor is not shown in the photos, =
nor
is the distributor tower.  The latter could be difficult to source.  =
Some
prices include VAT, some do not.

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For those in the USA, VAT is Value Added Tax, levied at 20% for sales =
within
the UK.  Exports are exempt, so you do not pay it.

=20

Payen gaskets are no longer available from the specialists, but they are
still in the supply chain.  Ask an engine builder to find a head gasket. =
 I
bought four, and was offered seven more!  The special gaskets available =
now
are very expensive.

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Pistons are interesting.  I don=92t know from where they come nowadays, =
but
Ahead4Healeys and AH Spares show an additional oil ring at the bottom =
which
was not on my original pistons, or the ones in the photos.  I bought =
Omega
pistons from Denis Welch.  =A3800+VAT.  However standard pistons are =
around
=A3225+VAT.  The sum of the width of all standard piston rings is around =
9.8
mm per piston.  For the Omega pistons this is 3.2mm.  Since piston =
friction
is 20% of engine friction, this represents a reduction of about 13% of =
total
engine friction, which could be up to 10bhp at max power.  Omega pistons =
are
also 16% lighter than standard.

=20

Just my thoughts.  I am currently putting my engine together, so all of =
the
costs are impressed upon my brain and my bank account.

=20

Simon, I believe that you are in the UK from previous posts.  Contact me =
for
more info if you wish.

=20

Ian

=20

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: 16 June 2020 19:45
To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 engine on eBay

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I have often lingered over the idea of buying a 3000 engine to rebuild. =
More
or less as a challenge/hobby. And to teach myself how to do it=85ie to =
move
from theory into practise. But these engines are not cheap and they=92re =
not
getting any cheaper.

So =96 and I=92d be obliged if you all forebore the temptation to buy =
it! =96 this
is currently on UK eBay. I just don=92t know enough to judge it. Getting =
those
pistons out seems to have involved something fairly drastic. (Good old
Amatol perhaps?)

Does anyone have any advice=85=85? Is this a =93Don=92t touch it with a =
barge pole.
It=92s probably wrecked.=94 Or =93Could be a good cheap start point to =
an
expensive project=94. Or what=85=85=85=85..

=20

=20
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Engine-would-suit-100-6/12=
422
3152808?ssPageName=3DSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=3Dp2060353.m1438.l2649>
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Engine-would-suit-100-6/124=
223
152808?ssPageName=3DSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=3Dp2060353.m1438.l2649

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Simon

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Looks more or less complete.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Minimum =
costs will be:=A0 clean block and resin seal (=A3200); rebore; regrind =
crank=A0 (=A3690 for both in Dec 2018);=A0 new brgs, including camshaft =
if you have dipped the block; new pistons;=A0 head work to make it =
suitable for unleaded fuel (I estimated =A31,000 minimum for this, but =
forked out for an aluminium head); new oil pump (DWR about =
=A3180+VAT).=A0 The rocker shaft is expensive to fix properly &#8211; =
labour cost to ream the bushes.=A0 You will probably need a camshaft =
(=A3500+ depending upon what you buy);=A0 rear crank oil seal (=A345 =
+VAT, but machine shop to fit properly);=A0 then of course you will need =
timing chain (don&#8217;t buy an =A38 one), all gaskets, clutch, and =
whatever else is knackered.=A0 The distributor is not shown in the =
photos, nor is the distributor tower.=A0 The latter could be difficult =
to source.=A0 Some prices include VAT, some do not.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For those in =
the USA, VAT is Value Added Tax, levied at 20% for sales within the =
UK.=A0 Exports are exempt, so you do not pay it.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Payen =
gaskets are no longer available from the specialists, but they are still =
in the supply chain.=A0 Ask an engine builder to find a head gasket.=A0 =
I bought four, and was offered seven more!=A0 The special gaskets =
available now are very expensive.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Pistons are =
interesting.=A0 I don&#8217;t know from where they come nowadays, but =
Ahead4Healeys and AH Spares show an additional oil ring at the bottom =
which was not on my original pistons, or the ones in the photos.=A0 I =
bought Omega pistons from Denis Welch.=A0 =A3800+VAT. =A0However =
standard pistons are around =A3225+VAT.=A0 The sum of the width of all =
standard piston rings is around 9.8 mm per piston.=A0 For the Omega =
pistons this is 3.2mm.=A0 Since piston friction is 20% of engine =
friction, this represents a reduction of about 13% of total engine =
friction, which could be up to 10bhp at max power.=A0 Omega pistons are =
also 16% lighter than standard.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my =
thoughts.=A0 I am currently putting my engine together, so all of the =
costs are impressed upon my brain and my bank account.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon, I =
believe that you are in the UK from previous posts.=A0 Contact me for =
more info if you wish.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ian<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 June 2020 =
19:45<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] 3000 engine =
on eBay<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have often =
lingered over the idea of buying a 3000 engine to rebuild. More or less =
as a challenge/hobby. And to teach myself how to do it&#8230;ie to move =
from theory into practise. But these engines are not cheap and =
they&#8217;re not getting any cheaper.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So &#8211; and I&#8217;d be obliged if you all =
forebore the temptation to buy it! &#8211; this is currently on UK eBay. =
I just don&#8217;t know enough to judge it. Getting those pistons out =
seems to have involved something fairly drastic. (Good old Amatol =
perhaps?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Does anyone have any =
advice&#8230;&#8230;? Is this a &#8220;Don&#8217;t touch it with a barge =
pole. It&#8217;s probably wrecked.&#8221; Or &#8220;Could be a good =
cheap start point to an expensive project&#8221;. Or =
what&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Engine-would-suit-1=
00-6/124223152808?ssPageName=3DSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksid=3Dp2060353.=
m1438.l2649"><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Engine=
-would-suit-100-6/124223152808?ssPageName=3DSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksi=
d=3Dp2060353.m1438.l2649</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>
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