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Subject: Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators?
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:51:02 -0700
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I've converted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I'm using the original
flasher, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers flashing VERY fast) you have
to install LED light load resistors at all four corners. I didn't replace
the dash light and it seems to operate as normal (mostly).

Mark Fawcett
1959 BT7

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine <ronfineesq@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker
> lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw fro=
m
> the halogen bulbs.
>
> I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine bay.  I
> would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the green lens i=
n
> the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there.  I am trying to
> understand why.  That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that  go=
es
> no where else other than to ground.  I can=E2=80=99t figure out why an LE=
D in that
> position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficient
> current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal
> lights.  I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to
> understand why things work or don=E2=80=99t.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* i erbs
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PM
> *To:* Ron Fine
> *Cc:* Healey Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal
> indicators?
>
> use a solid state flasher
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
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> wrote:
>
>> Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says =E2=80=9C LEDs should no=
t be
>> used for turn signal indicators=E2=80=9D
>>
>> I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but =
I
>> don=E2=80=99t know why the turn  signal indicator green colored light ca=
n=E2=80=99t also be
>> an LED.  It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the
>> lower current draw.  What am I missing here?  I am using the original
>> flasher.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron Fine
>> 61Bn7
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve converted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I=
&#39;m using the original flasher, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers fl=
ashing VERY fast) you have to install LED light load resistors at all four =
corners. I didn&#39;t replace the dash light and it seems to=C2=A0operate a=
s normal (mostly).<div><br></div><div>Mark Fawcett</div><div>1959 BT7</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ronfineesq@e=
arthlink.net">ronfineesq@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker=
=20
lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from =
the=20
halogen bulbs. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine=20
bay.=C2=A0 I would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the g=
reen=20
lens in the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there.=C2=A0 I am tryi=
ng to=20
understand why.=C2=A0 That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that=
=C2=A0=20
goes no where else other than to ground.=C2=A0 I can=E2=80=99t figure out w=
hy an LED in=20
that position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficie=
nt=20
current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal=20
lights.=C2=A0 I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to=20
understand why things work or don=E2=80=99t.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Ron</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"eyera3000@gmail.com">i=20
erbs</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"ronfineesq@earthlink.net">Ron Fine</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Healey Mailing List</a>=
 </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal=
=20
indicators?</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font=
-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">use a solid state flasher<br clear=3D"all">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs=20
<div>Portland,OR</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
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_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______=20
\____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,s=
erif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
(_________________________)</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 BT7 engine and =
disk=20
brakes</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>1967 MGB=C2=A0 <img alt=3D"MG" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists=
.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,h=
elvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">A=20
racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario=20
Andretti</span><br></div>
<div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled=20
words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron =
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
  <div>Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says =E2=80=9C<span><font=
 color=3D"#636363"><span><font style=3D"font-size:8.4pt">=C2=A0</font></spa=
n><font style=3D"font-size:8.4pt">LEDs should not be used for turn signal=
=20
  indicators=E2=80=9D</font></font></span></div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363"></font></span>=C2=A0</div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363">I have already replaced my gage lighti=
ng with=20
  LED, which work great but I don=E2=80=99t know why the turn=C2=A0 signal =
indicator=20
  green colored light can=E2=80=99t also be an LED.=C2=A0 It is simply an o=
n-off light=20
  that should not be affected by the lower current draw.=C2=A0 What am I mi=
ssing=20
  here?=C2=A0 I am using the original flasher.</font></span></div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363"></font></span>=C2=A0</div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363">Thanks,</font></span></div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363"></font></span>=C2=A0</div>
  <div><span><font color=3D"#636363">Ron Fine</font></span></div>
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