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To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, "'Tom Mitchell'" <drtommitch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] wheel
From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 10:46:56 -0800
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Michael,
 
It is hard to tell from your picture if the hole is the same size. As I am
sure you already know the timing cover has 7 x 2K7440 for a 5/16" bolt and 5
x 2K5197 for a 1/4" bolt. The sump has 25 x 2K5197. It could be the 2K5197's
were drilled out to 5/16" to replace missing 2K7440's either at the factory
or by a previous engine builder.
 
Harold

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Salter
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:30 AM
To: Tom Mitchell
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] wheel


Staggered bullets, degreased and wrapped tightly in 1 or 2 layers of masking
tape will easily slide down a clean stator tube from the top. 
M

On Sun., Jan. 3, 2021, 1:09 p.m. Tom Mitchell, <drtommitch@gmail.com> wrote:


One point (btw I agree with cutting and replacing the bullet ends is easy
and safer) is that if you try to force the connectors you stand the risk of
expanding the tube.  
I didn't this by attaching a wire and pulling the wires through. I didn't
notice the damage until later. The results is a sloppy trafficator.
Course another set of eyes and hands don't hurt

Tom

Dr. Tom Mitchell 

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:37 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:


"Possibly the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back
through the lower portion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/hub."

----------------------------------------------------------
I was prepared for a real struggle and since I did not like the condition of
the electrical connectors I decided to cut them off and use new ones once I
pulled the wires down through the stator tube.
This made everything easy and to anyone who has difficulty in pulling the
wires with connectors in place please consider cutting them off and renewing
them as I did.


Best--Michael Oritt



On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:10 AM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
wrote:


If you do pull the harness out of the stator, I use a rubber stopper to plug
the orifice in the box to keep the lube in the box.  When I'm ready to run
the harness back down the stator, I run a fish tape up from the box, tie on
the leads, appropriately staggered to allow for clearance through the
stator, and pull them through.  It's messy.  Unless you REALLY need to
remove the wheel, just work around it.  

 

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard
Kahn
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:31 PM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] wheel

 

Attach a string or wire to the wires you pull through the stator tube. You
can stagger the wires to aid in sliding them back through. If possible, you
may be able to just pull the wheel to the side, leaving it connected after
you get the trafficator off.

I would not mess with the steering box if you don't have to. I have just
"unwired" the trafficator and pull the wheel off.  Just be sure you note
which wire connects where they came from. I've done this a few times.

 

Rich

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell
<bspidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 5:27 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] wheel 

 

The wheel is a piece of cake (single large snap ring). The trafficator,
which has to be removed first, is a real PITA. The usual 'technique' is to
disconnect the trafficator harness at the front of the car,and pull the
movable part out. But, it's possible, if you have enough slack in the
harness, to pull the top part of the stator tube out and disconnect the
wiring at the hub (take lots of photos). All things considered, I think Plan
A is the least hassle; drain the steering box first (you'll lose most of the
fluid anyway when you loosen the olive). Plan B involves messing with a lot
of small, non-standard screws, which have a tendency to evaporate.

Possibly the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back through
the lower portion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/hub.

Bob

On 1/2/2021 2:55 PM, Mike Sinclair wrote:

How much trouble is it to remove the steering wheel on a BJ8?  And how much
trouble to put it back?  I just want it out of the way temporarily.  

Mike

 

 

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D969054018-03012021><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D969054018-03012021><FONT =
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size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is hard to tell from your picture if the hole =
is the same=20
size. As I&nbsp;am sure you already know the timing cover has 7 x 2K7440 =
for a=20
5/16" bolt and 5 x 2K5197 for a 1/4" bolt. The sump has 25 x 2K5197. It =
could be=20
the 2K5197's were drilled out to 5/16" to replace missing 2K7440's =
either at the=20
factory or by a previous engine builder.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D969054018-03012021><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D969054018-03012021><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Harold</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Healeys=20
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20
Salter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Tom=20
Mitchell<BR><B>Cc:</B> Austin Healey<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys]=20
wheel<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Staggered bullets, degreased and wrapped tightly in 1 or 2 layers =
of=20
masking tape will easily slide down a clean stator tube from the top.
<DIV>M</DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Sun., Jan. 3, 2021, 1:09 p.m. Tom =
Mitchell,=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:drtommitch@gmail.com";>drtommitch@gmail.com</A>&gt; =

wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex">
  <DIV>One point (btw I agree with cutting and replacing the bullet ends =
is easy=20
  and safer) is that if you try to force the connectors you stand the =
risk of=20
  expanding the tube.&nbsp;
  <DIV>I didn't this by attaching a wire and pulling the wires through. =
I didn't=20
  notice the damage until later. The results is a sloppy =
trafficator.</DIV>
  <DIV>Course another set of eyes and hands don't hurt<BR><BR>Tom</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Dr. Tom Mitchell =
</DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:37 PM =
Michael Oritt=20
  &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
  target=3D_blank>michael.oritt@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex">
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>"Possibly=20
    the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back through =
the=20
    lower portion of the stator tube to replace the =
wheel/hub."</SPAN><BR></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,0)'>----------------------------------------------------------</S=
PAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>I=20
    was prepared for a real struggle and since I did not like the =
condition of=20
    the electrical connectors&nbsp;I decided to cut them off and use new =

    ones&nbsp;once I pulled the wires down through the stator =
tube.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>This=20
    made everything easy and to anyone who has difficulty in pulling the =
wires=20
    with connectors in place please consider cutting them off and =
renewing them=20
    as I did.</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>Best--Michael=20
    Oritt</SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff"><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR></SPAN></DIV></DIV><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:10 AM =
Bruce Steele=20
    &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer"=20
    target=3D_blank>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; =
MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
      <DIV lang=3DEN-US>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>If=20
      you do pull the harness out of the stator, I use a rubber stopper =
to plug=20
      the orifice in the box to keep the lube in the box.&nbsp; When =
I&#8217;m ready=20
      to run the harness back down the stator, I run a fish tape up from =
the=20
      box, tie on the leads, appropriately staggered to allow for =
clearance=20
      through the stator, and pull them through.&nbsp; It&#8217;s =
messy.&nbsp; Unless=20
      you REALLY need to remove the wheel, just work around it.&nbsp;=20
      <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Bruce=20
      Steele<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Brea,=20
      CA<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960=20
      BN7<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BORDER-TOP: rgb(225,225,225) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: =
medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; =
PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri,sans-serif">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"> =
Healeys=20
      [mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
      rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</A>] <B>On Behalf =
Of=20
      </B>Richard Kahn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:31=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> Bob Spidell &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"=20
      rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D_blank>bspidell@comcast.net</A>&gt;; <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Healeys]=20
      wheel<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Attach a =
string or=20
      wire to the wires you pull through the stator tube. You can =
stagger the=20
      wires to aid in sliding them back through. If possible, you may be =
able to=20
      just pull the wheel to the side, leaving it connected after you =
get the=20
      trafficator off.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: black">I would =
not mess=20
      with the steering box if you don't have to. I have just "unwired" =
the=20
      trafficator and pull the wheel off.&nbsp; Just be sure you note =
which wire=20
      connects where they came from. I've done this a few=20
      times.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: =
black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: =
black">Rich<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter>
      <HR align=3Dcenter SIZE=3D2 width=3D"98%">
      </DIV>
      <DIV=20
      =
id=3Dm_6678656878099626437m_7752059856981993471gmail-m_-33326875278998816=
72divRplyFwdMsg>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: =
black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; COLOR: =
black">=20
      Healeys &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
      rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</A>&gt; on behalf =
of Bob=20
      Spidell &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"=20
      rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>bspidell@comcast.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Saturday,=20
      January 2, 2021 5:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A> &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer"=20
      target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
      [Healeys] wheel</SPAN> <U></U><U></U></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">The wheel is a =
piece of=20
      cake (single large snap ring). The trafficator, which has to be =
removed=20
      first, is a real PITA. The usual 'technique' is to disconnect the=20
      trafficator harness at the front of the car,and pull the movable =
part out.=20
      But, it's possible, if you have enough slack in the harness, to =
pull the=20
      top part of the stator tube out and disconnect the wiring at the =
hub (take=20
      lots of photos). All things considered, I think Plan A is the =
least=20
      hassle; drain the steering box first (you'll lose most of the =
fluid anyway=20
      when you loosen the olive). Plan B involves messing with a lot of =
small,=20
      non-standard screws, which have a tendency to =
evaporate.<BR><BR>Possibly=20
      the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back =
through the=20
      lower portion of the stator tube to replace the=20
      wheel/hub.<BR><BR>Bob<U></U><U></U></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>On 1/2/2021 2:55 PM, Mike Sinclair=20
      wrote:<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
        <P><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif">How much =
trouble is it=20
        to remove the steering wheel on a BJ8?&nbsp; And how much =
trouble to put=20
        it back?&nbsp; I just want it out of the way temporarily.&nbsp;=20
        </SPAN><U></U><U></U></P>
        <P><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma,sans-serif">Mike</SPAN><U></U><U></U></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
      <P=20
      =
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