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To: "Stephen Hutchings" <s.hutchings@rogers.com>, "David Nock" <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting
From: David Nock BCS via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 13:12:09 -0800
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Years ago when my kids were young. I modified a top header rail with a =
3=E2=80=9D high air deflector on it so they could sit in the back seats. =
We were unable to drive the car at any speed. The exhaust coming into =
the car as soon as we started to go was so bad I had to remove it with =
in the first couple of miles.


David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Stephen Hutchings=20
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 12:04 PM
To: David Nock=20
Cc: David Nock ; Healey Mail List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting

Thanks David,

This is very interesting to me, having become obsessed by controlling =
this phenomenon over the years.=20
I don=E2=80=99t doubt your advice at all, but do you know whether =
anyone=E2=80=99s ever really studied this?
I mean, something like a wind tunnel test, or the equivalent.
It=E2=80=99s a bit long winded trying to test drive various lengths, =
with just your nose as a gauge!=20
Of course, the wind direction can also make a big difference, especially =
at slow speeds.

Stephen=20



  On Mar 8, 2021, at 2:23 PM, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:

  Maybe an 1-2 inches past the bumper at that max not including the =
bumper guard.



  David Nock
  healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
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  Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the=20
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  From: Stephen Hutchings via Healeys=20
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 8:43 AM
  To: David Nock=20
  Cc: Healey Mail List=20
  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting

  So, what have you found to be the optimum distance? I had been told to =
get them past the bumper, which I did=E2=80=A6but maybe too far?=20

  Stephen, BJ8



    On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, David Nock via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

    You have to be very careful extending the pipes. If they are to far =
past the muffler the exhaust will be pulled back int the cockpit=20

    David Nock

    Sent from my iPhone


      On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

      =EF=BB=BFps. The fumes you're smelling might be coming from the =
end of the exhaust; if the tip doesn't extend past the rear bumper they =
can 'curl' back into the cockpit.


        On 3/7/2021 8:02 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
        I've had success sealing gaskets and small leaks with high-temp =
silicone. Edd China used to use some kind of blue paste, but haven't =
seen any like it around here.

        Bob


          On 3/7/2021 4:52 PM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:
          Hi Folks,

          After many years of service my old stainless exhaust system =
has had it, and I=E2=80=99ve decided to replace it with another =
stainless system.
          I wonder if any of you have some tips/tricks for getting a =
good gas tight fit at the joins.
          I=E2=80=99ve had my car for 45 years and I=E2=80=99ve =
struggled many times with controlling fumes. I=E2=80=99ve recently =
replaced the manifold gasket, made up down pipe gaskets out of Remflex ( =
a graphite exhaust gasket material that compresses), lengthened my old =
tail pipes, and carefully checked and sealed the firewall.
          It=E2=80=99s become a bit of an obsession for me, so, since =
I=E2=80=99m starting with a new system, I=E2=80=99m hoping to see an =
improvement.

          Suggestions?

          Thanks,

          Stephen, BJ8
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<DIV>Years ago when my kids were young. I modified a top header rail =
with a 3=E2=80=9D=20
high air deflector on it so they could sit in the back seats. We were =
unable to=20
drive the car at any speed. The exhaust coming into the car as soon as =
we=20
started to go was so bad I had to remove it with in the first couple of=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2021 12:04 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dhealeydoc@gmail.com>David Nock</A> </DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks David,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>This is very interesting to me, having become obsessed =
by=20
controlling this phenomenon over the years.=20
<DIV>I don=E2=80=99t doubt your advice at all, but do you know whether =
anyone=E2=80=99s ever=20
really studied this?</DIV>
<DIV>I mean, something like a wind tunnel test, or the equivalent.</DIV>
<DIV>It=E2=80=99s a bit long winded trying to test drive various =
lengths, with just your=20
nose as a gauge! </DIV>
<DIV>Of course, the wind direction can also make a big difference, =
especially at=20
slow speeds.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Stephen <BR>
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  <DIV>On Mar 8, 2021, at 2:23 PM, David Nock =
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  <DIV>Maybe an 1-2 inches past the bumper at that max not including the =
bumper=20
  guard.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: century">David=20
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</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2021 8:43 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dhealeydoc@sbcglobal.net>David Nock</A> =
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Exhaust fitting</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
calibri; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">So,=20
  what have you found to be the optimum distance? I had been told to get =
them=20
  past the bumper, which I did=E2=80=A6but maybe too far?=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Stephen, BJ8<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, David Nock via Healeys=20
    &lt;<A>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV><SPAN=20
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0px">You=20
    have to be very careful extending the pipes. If they are to far past =
the=20
    muffler the exhaust will be pulled back int the cockpit<SPAN=20
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    type=3D"cite">On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys=20
      &lt;<A>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>=EF=BB=BFps. =
The fumes you're=20
      smelling might be coming from the end of the exhaust; if the tip =
doesn't=20
      extend past the rear bumper they can 'curl' back into the =
cockpit.<BR><BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On 3/7/2021 8:02 PM, Bob Spidell =
wrote:<BR>I've=20
        had success sealing gaskets and small leaks with high-temp =
silicone. Edd=20
        China used to use some kind of blue paste, but haven't seen any =
like it=20
        around here.<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On 3/7/2021 4:52 PM, Stephen Hutchings =
via=20
          Healeys wrote:<BR>Hi Folks,<BR><BR>After many years of service =
my old=20
          stainless exhaust system has had it, and I=E2=80=99ve decided =
to replace it=20
          with another stainless system.<BR>I wonder if any of you have =
some=20
          tips/tricks for getting a good gas tight fit at the =
joins.<BR>I=E2=80=99ve had=20
          my car for 45 years and I=E2=80=99ve struggled many times with =
controlling=20
          fumes. I=E2=80=99ve recently replaced the manifold gasket, =
made up down pipe=20
          gaskets out of Remflex ( a graphite exhaust gasket material =
that=20
          compresses), lengthened my old tail pipes, and carefully =
checked and=20
          sealed the firewall.<BR>It=E2=80=99s become a bit of an =
obsession for me, so,=20
          since I=E2=80=99m starting with a new system, I=E2=80=99m =
hoping to see an=20
          =
improvement.<BR><BR>Suggestions?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Stephen,=20
          =
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