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I had to replace my pertronix system when I did my last refurbishment becau=
se I switched from positive to negative ground (they are polarity sensitive=
). The instructions with the new unit stated that carbon core wires were re=
quired. I called their service department and they told me that it=92s poss=
ible that the RF interference generated by some ignition systems could dama=
ge the unit. For the sake of caution I switched over. I=92m running a DM6 w=
ith a top terminal cap. The cap has the acorn nut style terminals, which po=
sed a problem because these are usually held onto the wire by running the b=
are wire through a washer and splaying it at the end. You can=92t do that w=
ith carbon core. I got around that by using small stainless wood-screws abo=
ut a half inch long through the washers and screwed up into the carbon core=
.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Simon Lachlan v=
ia Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:17 PM
To: 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question
There are Pertronix lookalikes around. Powerspark, Accuspark etcetc. Maybe=
one of those?
Simon
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via=
Healeys
Sent: 21 April 2021 15:55
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question
Side note:
It's interesting--to a wonk like me, at least--that the Pertronix Ignitor I=
for 4-cyl Healeys doesn't need/use the magnet 'collar' that the 6-cyl cars=
' unit does. Apparently, the Hall Effect sensor in the Ignitor is sensitive=
enough to detect the lobes of the distributor cam by shape. When I opened =
the box for my BN2 I thought "Damn, they forgot to pack the magnet collar;"=
but it wasn't mentioned in the instructions so I installed it. It's worked=
flawlessly (but I only have a few hundred miles on it).
I once owned/drove an old Subaru. It had a 'standard' distributor/coil setu=
p, but used an electronic points module that looked exactly like an Ignitor=
I (AFAIK Pertronix didn't supply OEM manufacturers). That car was driven h=
ard by myself and a couple of my nephews, and had about 175K miles on it wh=
en it finally met the scrapper.
bs
On 4/21/2021 6:39 AM, i erbs via Healeys wrote:
Thanks folks.
I had bad experiences with carbon wires and the bumblebees look really cool=
.
Cheers
Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR
chaskell@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Ira,
I believe that the only cap available for the DM6A distributor is the
side entry with screws. The vertical, plug in, cap was fitted to the
later 25D6 distributor.
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
On 4/21/21 4:28 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> I ran mine with side cap and bumblebees. No suppressors. No problems.
>
> I=92m pretty sure that =93they say=94 that graphite core wires don=92t do=
well
> in the old Lucases. The screws dig into the graphite and
> time/vibration abrades the graphite and thus the contact. Anyhow, I
> stuck with bumblebees on that advice.
>
> Simon
>
ox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of *WILLIAM
> B LAWRENCE via Healeys
> *Sent:* 21 April 2021 02:28
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question
>
> Ira, the pertronix unit fits on the stock base plate in the
> distributor. You can use the same cap. They recommend graphite core
> wires, although I ran solid core wires with mine for several years and
> never had a problem.
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> BN1 #554
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
ox.team.net>
net>>> on behalf of i erbs
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 6:57 PM
> *Subject:* [Healeys] another pertronix question
>
> If I get the adaptor kit will I need to change the cap and wires?
>
> I am using the side style cap and bumble bee wires. Will I need to use
> suppressor carbon wires?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Hope to meet many of you at Conclave.
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
> _______ _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
> BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> 1967 MGB MG
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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<div>I had to replace my pertronix system when I did my last refurbishment =
because I switched from positive to negative ground (they are polarity sens=
itive). The instructions with the new unit stated that carbon core wires we=
re required. I called their service
department and they told me that it=92s possible that the RF interference =
generated by some ignition systems could damage the unit. For the sake of c=
aution I switched over. I=92m running a DM6 with a top terminal cap. The ca=
p has the acorn nut style terminals,
which posed a problem because these are usually held onto the wire by runn=
ing the bare wire through a washer and splaying it at the end. You can=92t =
do that with carbon core. I got around that by using small stainless wood-s=
crews about a half inch long through
the washers and screwed up into the carbon core.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
<div><br>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healey=
s@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question</font>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">There are Pertronix lookalikes ar=
ound. Powerspark, Accuspark etcetc. Maybe one of those?</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> </span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 April 2021 15:55<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Side note: <br>
<br>
It's interesting--to a wonk like me, at least--that the Pertronix Ignitor I=
for 4-cyl Healeys doesn't need/use the magnet 'collar' that the 6-cyl cars=
' unit does. Apparently, the Hall Effect sensor in the Ignitor is sensitive=
enough to detect the lobes of the
distributor cam by shape. When I opened the box for my BN2 I thought "=
;Damn, they forgot to pack the magnet collar;" but it wasn't mentioned=
in the instructions so I installed it. It's worked flawlessly (but I only =
have a few hundred miles on it).<br>
<br>
I once owned/drove an old Subaru. It had a 'standard' distributor/coil setu=
p, but used an electronic points module that looked exactly like an Ignitor=
I (AFAIK Pertronix didn't supply OEM manufacturers). That car was driven h=
ard by myself and a couple of my
nephews, and had about 175K miles on it when it finally met the scrapper.<=
br>
<br>
bs</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">On 4/21/2021 6:39 AM, i erbs via Healeys wrote:</p=
>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><br>
Thanks folks. </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">I had bad experiences with carbon wires and the bu=
mblebees look really cool.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
1959 AH 100-6<br>
1967 MGB<br>
Milwaukie, OR</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 2:52 AM Bob Haskell <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";>rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>> wrot=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Ira,<br>
<br>
I believe that the only cap available for the DM6A distributor is the <br>
side entry with screws. The vertical, plug in, cap was fitted to the =
<br>
later 25D6 distributor.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
<br>
On 4/21/21 4:28 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> I ran mine with side cap and bumblebees. No suppressors. No problems.<=
br>
><br>
> I=92m pretty sure that =93they say=94 that graphite core wires don=92t=
do well <br>
> in the old Lucases. The screws dig into the graphite and <br>
> time/vibration abrades the graphite and thus the contact. Anyhow, I <b=
r>
> stuck with bumblebees on that advice.<br>
><br>
> Simon<br>
><br>
> *From:*Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of *WILL=
IAM
<br>
> B LAWRENCE via Healeys<br>
> *Sent:* 21 April 2021 02:28<br>
> *To:* i erbs <<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>>; Ahealey help <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] another pertronix question<br>
><br>
> Ira, the pertronix unit fits on the stock base plate in the <br>
> distributor. You can use the same cap. They recommend graphite core <b=
r>
> wires, although I ran solid core wires with mine for several years and=
<br>
> never had a problem.<br>
><br>
> Bill Lawrence<br>
><br>
> BN1 #554<br>
><br>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
--<br>
><br>
> *From:*Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>
<br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>> on behalf of i erbs
<br>
> <<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">eyera3000=
@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2021 6:57 PM<br>
> *To:* Ahealey help <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
<br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>><br>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] another pertronix question<br>
><br>
> If I get the adaptor kit will I need to change the cap and wires?<br>
><br>
> I am using the side style cap and bumble bee wires. Will I need to use=
<br>
> suppressor carbon wires?<br>
><br>
> Thanks all.<br>
><br>
> Hope to meet many of you at Conclave.<br>
><br>
> Ira Erbs<br>
><br>
> Milwaukie,OR<br>
><br>
> _______ _______=
<br>
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
> (_________________________)<br>
><br>
> BT7 engine and disk brakes<br>
><br>
> 1967 MGB MG<br>
><br>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<=
br>
><br>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</p>
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