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Getting the engine / Radiator to cool down is one issue,,,,,the vapor lock =
is normally in the float bowls
boiling out...so get some airflow over them. Use
an axial flow fan ( a nice 4" one is available from boat sources). Add anot=
her inlet from the grille.
Even warm air on a hot day will help.
That did it for me.
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2. Re: air ducting kit (rfbegani@gmail.com)
3. Re: air ducting kit (Bob Spidell)
4. Re: air ducting kit (Richard Collins)
5. Re: air ducting kit (Michael Salter)
6. Re: air ducting kit (rfbegani@gmail.com)
7. Re: air ducting kit (Perry Small)
8. Re: air ducting kit (David P)
9. Re: air ducting kit (Michael Salter)
10. Re: air ducting kit (Richard Collins)
11. Later steering box in a BN1 (richard mayor)
12. Re: Wind blocker material (richard mayor)
13. Re: air ducting kit (fsufan1952@yahoo.com)
14. Re: air ducting kit (Harold Manifold)
15. Re: Later steering box in a BN1 (john harper)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 13:07:53 -0700
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Message-ID:
<CABXhz88Phq_HVr=3DRz+BExfX2krD7UkOAiVbTYuSe=3D=3Dk=3D+4HNRQ@mail.g=
mail.com>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an
identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various
reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking
at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that
directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
So has anyone done this or another kit?
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
1967 MGB [image: MG]
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 17:11:13 -0400
From: <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: "'i erbs'" <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Cc: "Austin Healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Hi Ira:
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the i=
ntroduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurrica=
ne velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be su=
fficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast through t=
he engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have intro=
duced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) t=
o keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through the wat=
er pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to the tric=
kle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented=
that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on h=
ighway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half goin=
g from the bottom of th
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in =
the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I have =
a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology verses o=
ur 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standard=
equipment.
Best regards,
Bob Begani
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Heal=
eys
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that direct=
s more air through the Rad cores is good .
So has anyone done this or another kit?
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
1967 MGB <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.j=
pg>
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 20:32:17 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on
the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation
in the pump and hose?
bs
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Ira:
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front
> of the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the
> radiator.? So the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the
> radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on
> the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water.? But it does
> not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiator,
> especially under low rpms.? So I have introduced an electric water
> pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) to keep the flow of
> water through the radiator to the engine through the water pump and
> back to the radiator.? it adds 150 liter per minute to the trickle
> produced by the mechanical pump.? I fact one of the listeners
> commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump
> operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using existing
> hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to the
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8^th diameter holes in the thermostat
> to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water.?
> And, I have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21^st century
> technology verses our 20^th century.? They even have AC power steering
> etc. systems as standard equipment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become
> an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had
> various reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have
> been looking at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look.
> Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
> <https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/>
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
> <https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/>
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
> ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ?_______
> ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
> ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> 1967 MGB MG
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 04:02:14 +0000
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Message-ID:
<BN7PR08MB427605EB28336C0BB1217CC3BF3B9@BN7PR08MB4276.namprd08.prod=
.outlook.com>
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift the lid and=
air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually attrac=
ts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440
On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?
bs
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
Hi Ira:
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the i=
ntroduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurrica=
ne velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be su=
fficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast through t=
he engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have intro=
duced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) t=
o keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through the wat=
er pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to the tric=
kle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented=
that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on h=
ighway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half goin=
g from the bottom of th
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in =
the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I have =
a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology verses o=
ur 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standard=
equipment.
Best regards,
Bob Begani
.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that direct=
s more air through the Rad cores is good .
So has anyone done this or another kit?
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
1967 MGB [MG]
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:34:46 -0400
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Message-ID:
<CAB3i7LJPsNXsXy9Dkm3tsomQ=3DWRjALtDVuooUTX6-dOisf8pLA@mail.gmail.c=
om>
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers
when the vapor occurs.
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.
M
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather
> as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I
> stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the
> gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift th=
e
> lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usual=
ly
> attracts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on
> the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation =
in
> the pump and hose?
>
> bs
>
>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Ira:
>
>
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of
> the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. =
So
> the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a
> hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone
> should be sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very
> fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms.
> So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get
> hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the
> engine through the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 lite=
r
> per minute to the trickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of
> the listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the
> water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using
> existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to th=
e
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in the thermostat to
> allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
>
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I
> have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
>
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century
> technology verses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering
> etc. systems as standard equipment.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
>
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an
> identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various
> reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looki=
ng
> at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that
> directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
> _______ _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
> BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB [image: MG]
>
>
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation $12.75
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 08:06:35 -0400
From: <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, "'Richard Collins'"
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Austin Healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to keep=
my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction starter solv=
ed all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car even whe=
n the engine is hot after a long run. Greatest thing since sliced bread, if=
you want your wife to travel with you as generally, they do not like helpi=
ng you push the car away from the gas pumps and standing around waiting for=
the car to start. But, if you have a wife who likes to push your Healey, =
she is a keeper.
Bob Begani
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter =
via Healeys
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers whe=
n the vapor occurs.
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.
M
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys@aut=
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift the lid and=
air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually attrac=
ts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440
l@comcast.net> > wrote:
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?
bs
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
Hi Ira:
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the i=
ntroduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurrica=
ne velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be su=
fficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast through t=
he engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have intro=
duced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) t=
o keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through the wat=
er pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to the tric=
kle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented=
that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on h=
ighway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half goin=
g from the bottom of th
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in =
the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I have =
a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology verses o=
ur 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standard=
equipment.
Best regards,
Bob Begani
ox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that direct=
s more air through the Rad cores is good .
So has anyone done this or another kit?
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:11:41 -0400
From: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
To: rfbegani@gmail.com
Cc: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Richard Collins
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>, Austin Healey list
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem) and a g=
ear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?
Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is air f=
low. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through the exchang=
er will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air flow is very import=
ant. The stock AH fans do not move many CFMs. Thus the reason the cars seem=
to do well, temp wise, at speed but very poorly idling along in a holiday =
parade!
P
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to ke=
ep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction starter so=
lved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car even w=
hen the engine is hot after a long run. Greatest thing since sliced bread, =
if you want your wife to travel with you as generally, they do not like hel=
ping you push the car away from the gas pumps and standing around waiting f=
or the car to start. But, if you have a wife who likes to push your Healey=
, she is a keeper.
>
> Bob Begani
>
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salte=
r via Healeys
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM
> To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers w=
hen the vapor occurs.
> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way aga=
in.
>
> M
>
> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather=
as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I st=
opped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge=
to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift the lid a=
nd air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually attr=
acts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on=
the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation i=
n the pump and hose?
>
> bs
>
>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
> Hi Ira:
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN=
4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the =
radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the=
introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurri=
cane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be =
sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast through=
the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have int=
roduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under)=
to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through the w=
ater pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to the tr=
ickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners comment=
ed that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on=
highway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half go=
ing from the bottom of
the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes i=
n the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the en=
gine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I hav=
e a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow contai=
ners, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology verses=
our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standa=
rd equipment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via He=
aleys
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an i=
dentifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reas=
ons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at =
the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that dire=
cts more air through the Rad cores is good .
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie,OR
> _______ _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
> BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
> 1967 MGB
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:21:12 -0600
From: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
early Datsun 240Z engines has a small blower and ducting which blew air
on the SU like carbs..
On 6/4/2021 7:11 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
> What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem)
> and a gear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?
>
> Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is
> air flow. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through
> the exchanger will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air
> flow is very important. The stock AH fans do not move many CFMs. Thus
> the reason the cars seem to do well, temp wise, at speed but very
> poorly idling along in a holiday parade!
> P
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system
>> to keep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction
>> starter solved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It
>> starts the car even when the engine is hot after a long run. Greatest
>> thing since sliced bread, if you want your wife to travel with you as
>> generally, they do not like helping you push the car away from the
>> gas pumps and standing around waiting for the car to start.? But, if
>> you have a wife who likes to push your Healey, she is a keeper.
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>> *Michael Salter via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM
>> *To:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
>> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
>>
>> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float
>> chambers when the vapor occurs.
>>
>> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way
>> again.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys,
>>
>> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot
>> weather as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the
>> other day when I stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning
>> off the engine caused the gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me
>> every time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for
>> 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually attracts an
>> audience which helps pass the time. ? :-)
>> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard C
>>
>> BN7 440
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>>
>> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a
>> smaller pulley on the water pump for more flow? Would that
>> just make turbulence/cavitation in the pump and hose?
>>
>> bs
>>
>> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ira:
>>
>> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the
>> radiator in the BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors
>> built in to the frame in front of the radiator, but, not
>> for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the
>> introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator
>> produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator
>> on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool
>> water.? But it does not move the water very fast through
>> the engine back to the radiator, especially under low
>> rpms.? So I have introduced an electric water pump
>> (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) to keep the
>> flow of water through the radiator to the engine through
>> the water pump and back to the radiator.? it adds 150
>> liter per minute to the trickle produced by the
>> mechanical pump.? I fact one of the listeners commented
>> that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water
>> pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install
>> using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of
>> the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x
>> 1/8^th diameter holes in the thermostat to allow the
>> water to flow during engine warm up.
>>
>> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few
>> min after the engine shut down which helps to reduce
>> flashing of the hot water. And, I have a large radiator
>> overflow container to absorb boil over.
>>
>> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans,
>> overflow containers, and some have an electric water
>> pump.? 21^st century technology verses our 20^th
>> century.? They even have AC power steering etc. systems
>> as standard equipment.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
>> erbs via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
>> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>>
>> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it
>> has become an identifying feature of my car. I have a
>> grille, I just have had various reasons to not instal it.
>> I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at the
>> Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus
>> anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is
>> good .
>>
>> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>>
>> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-ki=
t-bn4-bj8/
>> <https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-k=
it-bn4-bj8/>
>>
>> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8=
/
>> <https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj=
8/>
>>
>> Ira Erbs
>>
>> Milwaukie,OR
>>
>> ? ? _______ ? ?_______
>> ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>> (_________________________)
>>
>> ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>
>> 1967 MGB MG
>>
>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments.
>> Mario Andretti
>>
>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:29:19 -0400
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>, Richard Collins
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>, Austin Healey list
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Message-ID:
<CAB3i7LJPeTMrhwWarwRbiR_8oLk10_b+G582sYOH6H2N2aTpuw@mail.gmail.com=
>
Although it probably won't make much difference to "heatsoak" situations
one thing that was mentioned during our local club Zoom meeting was the
idea of adding a 3rd blade to a standard 6 cyl fan, something I'd never
heard of.
This sounds like a very good idea and at least a couple of our members have
done this with outstanding results.
Slightly longer screws are recommended for securing the 3 blades to the
waterpump pulley.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/706-53473-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=3D2&pub=3D557537=
8759&campid=3D5338273189&customid=3D&icep_item=3D303033053279&ipn=3Dpsmain&=
icep_vectorid=3D229529&kwid=3D902099&mtid=3D824&kw=3Dlg&toolid=3D11111
M
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 9:11 a.m. Perry Small, <healeyguy@aol.com> wrote:
> What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem) and a
> gear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?
>
> Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is air
> flow. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through the
> exchanger will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air flow is ve=
ry
> important. The stock AH fans do not move many CFMs. Thus the reason the
> cars seem to do well, temp wise, at speed but very poorly idling along in=
a
> holiday parade!
> P
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to
> keep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction starte=
r
> solved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car ev=
en
> when the engine is hot after a long run. Greatest thing since sliced brea=
d,
> if you want your wife to travel with you as generally, they do not like
> helping you push the car away from the gas pumps and standing around
> waiting for the car to start. But, if you have a wife who likes to push
> your Healey, she is a keeper.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Salter via Healeys
> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM
> *To:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
>
>
> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers
> when the vapor occurs.
>
> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way
> again.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather
> as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I
> stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the
> gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift th=
e
> lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usual=
ly
> attracts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard C
>
> BN7 440
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on
> the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation =
in
> the pump and hose?
>
> bs
>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Ira:
>
>
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of
> the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. =
So
> the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a
> hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone
> should be sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very
> fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms.
> So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get
> hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the
> engine through the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 lite=
r
> per minute to the trickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of
> the listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the
> water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using
> existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to th=
e
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in the thermostat to
> allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
>
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I
> have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
>
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century
> technology verses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering
> etc. systems as standard equipment.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
>
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an
> identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various
> reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looki=
ng
> at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that
> directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
> _______ _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
> BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB [image: MG]
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 13:45:18 +0000
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net"
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
Message-ID:
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Well, cold water is a concept but not sure some likely splashing on hot hea=
ders is a good idea. Probably better to fuel up prior to a drive.
My wife doesn?t care to drive in the Healey with me due to the backwash of =
the exhaust coming back in the cockpit on occasion. Plus she hates my drivi=
ng style which I say is ?sporting?. ;-)
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440
On Jun 4, 2021, at 06:34, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
?
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers whe=
n the vapor occurs.
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.
M
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys@aut=
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift the lid and=
air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually attrac=
ts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440
@comcast.net>> wrote:
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?
bs
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
Hi Ira:
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the i=
ntroduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurrica=
ne velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be su=
fficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast through t=
he engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have intro=
duced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) t=
o keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through the wat=
er pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to the tric=
kle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented=
that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on h=
ighway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half goin=
g from the bottom of th
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in =
the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I have =
a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology verses o=
ur 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standard=
equipment.
Best regards,
Bob Begani
.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that direct=
s more air through the Rad cores is good .
So has anyone done this or another kit?
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
BT7 engine and disk brakes
1967 MGB [MG]
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:49:49 -0700
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Later steering box in a BN1
Message-ID:
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Is this an easy swap? Anyone have details?
Richard
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:51:03 -0700
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
To: "J. Scott Morris" <jstmorris@yahoo.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wind blocker material
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They both use poly-carbonate (plexi-glass). I am looking for the type of
mesh that luxury cars use.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 2:18 PM J. Scott Morris <jstmorris@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Richard; Attached are 2 files with discussions and photos about 'Wind
> Blockers' Hopefully they will help.
>
> --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives
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>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021, 04:32:45 p.m. EDT, richard mayor via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I have made a prototype wind blocker for my 3000 using some left over
> plexiglass. But I need a suitable mesh fabric to really make it look
> better. I've had no luck so far with my search. Any suggestions?
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:16:24 -0400
From: fsufan1952@yahoo.com
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Cc: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
This is my latest attempt on solving my vapor lock problems. I?ve installed=
a beer can size blower fan ducted onto my carbs . I just finished wiring =
it to a switch under my dash . Now to test it out in the Florida sun . I?ll=
let you all know how it works out ?
Don
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
>
> ? Well, cold water is a concept but not sure some likely splashing on hot=
headers is a good idea. Probably better to fuel up prior to a drive.
> My wife doesn?t care to drive in the Healey with me due to the backwash o=
f the exhaust coming back in the cockpit on occasion. Plus she hates my dri=
ving style which I say is ?sporting?. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>
>>> On Jun 4, 2021, at 06:34, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>
>> ?
>> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers =
when the vapor occurs.
>> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way ag=
ain.
>>
>> M
>>
>>> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys=
@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weath=
er as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I =
stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gau=
ge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift the lid=
and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usually at=
tracts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)
>>> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard C
>>> BN7 440
>>>
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley=
on the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitatio=
n in the pump and hose?
>>>>
>>>> bs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ira:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in th=
e BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of =
the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So=
the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a h=
urricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should=
be sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the water very fast thr=
ough the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms. So I have=
introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down un=
der) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through t=
he water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute to th=
e trickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners com=
mented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operatin=
g on highway speeds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in hal=
f going from the bottom
of the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter hol=
es in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after th=
e engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I=
have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow co=
ntainers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology ve=
rses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems as st=
andard equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Begani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs vi=
a Healeys
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
>>>>> To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become =
an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various =
reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking=
at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that =
directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>>>>>
>>>>> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8=
/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ira Erbs
>>>>>
>>>>> Milwaukie,OR
>>>>>
>>>>> _______ _______
>>>>> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>>>> (_________________________)
>>>>>
>>>>> BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1967 MGB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>>>>>
>>>>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:07:08 -0700
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:56:02 +0100
From: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Later steering box in a BN1
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Richard
You will also have to change the idler, the steering arms, and maybe the
track rod.
Regards
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 14:55, richard mayor via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Is this an easy swap? Anyone have details?
>
> Richard
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4. Re: air ducting kit (Richard Collins)<br>
5. Re: air ducting kit (Michael Salter)<br>
6. Re: air ducting kit (rfbegani@gmail.com)<br>
7. Re: air ducting kit (Perry Small)<br>
8. Re: air ducting kit (David P)<br>
9. Re: air ducting kit (Michael Salter)<br>
10. Re: air ducting kit (Richard Collins)<br>
11. Later steering box in a BN1 (richard mayor)<br>
12. Re: Wind blocker material (richard mayor)<br>
13. Re: air ducting kit (fsufan1952@yahoo.com)<br>
14. Re: air ducting kit (Harold Manifold)<br>
15. Re: Later steering box in a BN1 (john harper)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 13:07:53 -0700<br>
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com><br>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CABXhz88Phq_HVr=3DRz+BExfX2k=
rD7UkOAiVbTYuSe=3D=3Dk=3D+4HNRQ@mail.gmail.com><br>
<br>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an<br>
identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various<br>
reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking=
<br>
at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that<b=
r>
directs more air through the Rad cores is good .<br>
So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-b=
j8/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";>h=
ttps://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
Ira Erbs<br>
Milwaukie,OR<br>
_______ &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; _______<br>
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
(_________________________=
)<br>
BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<br>
<br>
<br>
1967 MGB [image: MG]<br>
<br>
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br>
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 17:11:13 -0400<br>
From: <rfbegani@gmail.com><br>
To: "'i erbs'" <eyera3000@gmail.com><br>
Cc: "Austin Healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
Hi Ira:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So =
the introduction of the shovel from the
frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the rad=
iator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water. But =
it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiato=
r, especially under low rpms. So I have
introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down un=
der) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through t=
he water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute =
to the trickle produced by the mechanical
pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he could turn off t=
he fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway speeds. It was eas=
y to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of th<b=
r>
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter hole=
s in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I =
have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology ver=
ses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems a=
s standard equipment.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs vi=
a Healeys<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish
the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is goo=
d .<br>
<br>
So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-b=
j8/</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";>h=
ttps://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
<br>
Ira Erbs<br>
<br>
Milwaukie,OR<br>
<br>
_______ &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; _______<br>
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
(_________________________=
)<br>
<br>
BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
1967 MGB <<a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.=
com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg">http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/asset=
s/images/MG_emblem.jpg</a>>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br>
<br>
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 20:32:17 -0700<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
d"<br>
<br>
Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on <br=
>
the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation <b=
r>
in the pump and hose?<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Ira:<br>
><br>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the=
<br>
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front =
<br>
> of the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the <br>
> radiator.? So the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the <br=
>
> radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on =
<br>
> the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water.? But it does <=
br>
> not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiator, =
<br>
> especially under low rpms.? So I have introduced an electric water <br=
>
> pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) to keep the flow of =
<br>
> water through the radiator to the engine through the water pump and <b=
r>
> back to the radiator.? it adds 150 liter per minute to the trickle <br=
>
> produced by the mechanical pump.? I fact one of the listeners <br>
> commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump =
<br>
> operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using existing <br=
>
> hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to the <br>
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8^th diameter holes in the thermostat <=
br>
> to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
><br>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the=
<br>
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water.? <br=
>
> And, I have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<b=
r>
><br>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow <br=
>
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21^st century <br>
> technology verses our 20^th century.? They even have AC power steering=
<br>
> etc. systems as standard equipment.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Bob Begani<br>
><br>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *=
i erbs <br>
> via Healeys<br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
><br>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become <=
br>
> an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had <br=
>
> various reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have=
<br>
> been looking at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. <b=
r>
> Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is good .<br=
>
><br>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-k=
it-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a> =
<br>
> <<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducti=
ng-kit-bn4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-=
kit-bn4-bj8/</a>><br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj=
8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a>
<br>
> <<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a>&g=
t;<br>
><br>
> Ira Erbs<br>
><br>
> Milwaukie,OR<br>
><br>
> ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ?_______<br>
> ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
> (_________________________)<br>
><br>
> ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes<br>
><br>
> 1967 MGB MG<br>
><br>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<=
br>
><br>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 04:02:14 +0000<br>
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<BN7PR08MB427605EB28336C0BB12=
17CC3BF3B9@BN7PR08MB4276.namprd08.prod.outlook.com><br>
<br>
<br>
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every
time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes an=
d then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps pass the =
time. :-)<br>
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
BN7 440<br>
<br>
On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:<b=
r>
<br>
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
Hi Ira:<br>
<br>
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So =
the introduction of the shovel from the
frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the rad=
iator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water. But =
it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiato=
r, especially under low rpms. So I have
introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down un=
der) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through t=
he water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute =
to the trickle produced by the mechanical
pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he could turn off t=
he fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway speeds. It was eas=
y to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of th<b=
r>
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter hole=
s in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
<br>
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I =
have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
<br>
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology ver=
ses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems a=
s standard equipment.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net><mailto:healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish
the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is goo=
d .<br>
So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-b=
j8/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";>h=
ttps://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
Ira Erbs<br>
Milwaukie,OR<br>
_______ &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; _______<br>
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
(_________________________=
)<br>
BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<br>
<br>
<br>
1967 MGB [MG]<br>
<br>
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br>
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:34:46 -0400<br>
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net&=
quot;<br>
<healeys@autox.team.net><b=
r>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CAB3i7LJPsNXsXy9Dkm3tsomQ=3D=
WRjALtDVuooUTX6-dOisf8pLA@mail.gmail.com><br>
<br>
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers<br>
when the vapor occurs.<br>
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <<br>
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
<br>
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weat=
her<br>
> as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when =
I<br>
> stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused th=
e<br>
> gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift=
the<br>
> lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That us=
ually<br>
> attracts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)<br>
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Richard C<br>
> BN7 440<br>
><br>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wro=
te:<br>
><br>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley=
on<br>
> the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitati=
on in<br>
> the pump and hose?<br>
><br>
> bs<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Ira:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the=
<br>
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front =
of<br>
> the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator=
. So<br>
> the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces=
a<br>
> hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone<=
br>
> should be sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the wat=
er very<br>
> fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpm=
s.<br>
> So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does g=
et<br>
> hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the<=
br>
> engine through the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds =
150 liter<br>
> per minute to the trickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fac=
t one of<br>
> the listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep t=
he<br>
> water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using<b=
r>
> existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to=
the<br>
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in the thermostat to=
<br>
> allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the=
<br>
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. =
; And, I<br>
> have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow<br>
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century<b=
r>
> technology verses our 20th century. They even have AC power stee=
ring<br>
> etc. systems as standard equipment.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Bob Begani<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net><br>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Heale=
ys<br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.te=
am.net><br>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become a=
n<br>
> identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had variou=
s<br>
> reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been lo=
oking<br>
> at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything t=
hat<br>
> directs more air through the Rad cores is good .<br>
><br>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-k=
it-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><=
br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj=
8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
><br>
> Ira Erbs<br>
><br>
> Milwaukie,OR<br>
><br>
> _______ &nb=
sp; =
&nb=
sp; _______<br>
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
> (_______________=
__________)<br>
><br>
> BT7 engine=
and disk brakes<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1967 MGB [image: MG]<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 08:06:35 -0400<br>
From: <rfbegani@gmail.com><br>
To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, "'Ri=
chard Collins'"<br>
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>=
;<br>
Cc: "Austin Healey list" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to keep=
my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction starter solv=
ed all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car even whe=
n the engine is hot after a long
run. Greatest thing since sliced bread, if you want your wife to travel wi=
th you as generally, they do not like helping you push the car away from th=
e gas pumps and standing around waiting for the car to start. But, if=
you have a wife who likes to push your
Healey, she is a keeper.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael S=
alter via Healeys<br>
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM<br>
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers whe=
n the vapor occurs.
<br>
<br>
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys@=
autox.team.net <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>> > wrote:<br>
<br>
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every
time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes an=
d then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps pass the =
time. :-)<br>
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Richard C<br>
<br>
BN7 440<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net <<a href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>mailto:bspidell@comcast.net</a>> > w=
rote:<br>
<br>
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi Ira:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So =
the introduction of the shovel from the
frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the rad=
iator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water. But =
it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiato=
r, especially under low rpms. So I have
introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down un=
der) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through t=
he water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute =
to the trickle produced by the mechanical
pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he could turn off t=
he fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway speeds. It was eas=
y to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of th<b=
r>
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter hole=
s in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I =
have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology ver=
ses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems a=
s standard equipment.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>m=
ailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
To: Ahealey help <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish
the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is goo=
d .<br>
<br>
So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-b=
j8/</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";>h=
ttps://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
<br>
Ira Erbs<br>
<br>
Milwaukie,OR<br>
<br>
_______ &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; _______<br>
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
(_________________________=
)<br>
<br>
BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
1967 MGB <<a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.=
com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg">http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/asset=
s/images/MG_emblem.jpg</a>>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br>
<br>
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:11:41 -0400<br>
From: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com><br>
To: rfbegani@gmail.com<br>
Cc: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Richard Collins<br>
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>=
;, Austin Healey list<br>
<healeys@autox.team.net><b=
r>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem) and a g=
ear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?
<br>
<br>
Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is air f=
low. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through the exchang=
er will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air flow is very import=
ant. The stock AH fans do not move
many CFMs. Thus the reason the cars seem to do well, temp wise, at speed b=
ut very poorly idling along in a holiday parade!
<br>
P<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to=
keep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction starter=
solved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car eve=
n when the engine is hot after a long
run. Greatest thing since sliced bread, if you want your wife to travel wi=
th you as generally, they do not like helping you push the car away from th=
e gas pumps and standing around waiting for the car to start. But, if=
you have a wife who likes to push your
Healey, she is a keeper.<br>
> <br>
> Bob Begani<br>
> <br>
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mich=
ael Salter via Healeys<br>
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM<br>
> To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
> <br>
> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chamber=
s when the vapor occurs.
<br>
> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way =
again.<br>
> <br>
> M<br>
> <br>
> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <hea=
leys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weat=
her as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I=
stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the ga=
uge to hit 200 which vapor locks me
every time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 minu=
tes and then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps pas=
s the time. :-)<br>
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> Richard C<br>
> BN7 440<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wro=
te:<br>
> <br>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley=
on the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitatio=
n in the pump and hose?<br>
> <br>
> bs<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
> Hi Ira:<br>
> <br>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the=
BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of t=
he radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. =
; So the introduction of the shovel from
the frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the=
radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water. =
But it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to the rad=
iator, especially under low rpms. So
I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot =
down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine th=
rough the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per =
minute to the trickle produced by the
mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he could=
turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway speeds.=
It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the bot=
tom of
<br>
the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter ho=
les in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
> <br>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the=
engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. An=
d, I have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
> <br>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow con=
tainers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technolog=
y verses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. syst=
ems as standard equipment.<br>
> <br>
> Best regards,<br>
> <br>
> Bob Begani<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i er=
bs via Healeys<br>
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
> To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
> Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
> <br>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become a=
n identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various r=
easons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking =
at the Cape International kits to accomplish
the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is goo=
d .<br>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-k=
it-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><=
br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj=
8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
> Ira Erbs<br>
> Milwaukie,OR<br>
> _______ &nb=
sp; =
&nb=
sp; _______<br>
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
> (_______________=
__________)<br>
> BT7 engine=
and disk brakes<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> 1967 MGB <br>
> <br>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<=
br>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
> <br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:21:12 -0600<br>
From: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com><br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
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d"<br>
<br>
early Datsun 240Z engines has a small blower and ducting which blew air <br=
>
on the SU like carbs..<br>
<br>
On 6/4/2021 7:11 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:<br>
> What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem) <b=
r>
> and a gear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?<br>
><br>
> Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is =
<br>
> air flow. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through <=
br>
> the exchanger will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air <br=
>
> flow is very important. The stock AH fans do not move many CFMs. Thus =
<br>
> the reason the cars seem to do well, temp wise, at speed but very <br>
> poorly idling along in a holiday parade!<br>
> P<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
>> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> ?<br>
>><br>
>> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water syste=
m <br>
>> to keep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduct=
ion <br>
>> starter solved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It <b=
r>
>> starts the car even when the engine is hot after a long run. Great=
est <br>
>> thing since sliced bread, if you want your wife to travel with you=
as <br>
>> generally, they do not like helping you push the car away from the=
<br>
>> gas pumps and standing around waiting for the car to start.? But, =
if <br>
>> you have a wife who likes to push your Healey, she is a keeper.<br=
>
>><br>
>> Bob Begani<br>
>><br>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf =
Of <br>
>> *Michael Salter via Healeys<br>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM<br>
>> *To:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
>> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
>><br>
>> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float <br=
>
>> chambers when the vapor occurs.<br>
>><br>
>> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your =
way <br>
>> again.<br>
>><br>
>> M<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <br=
>
>> <healeys@autox.team.net <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net">mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at =
long stop lights in hot<br>
>> weather as expected to some extant, not wh=
ile driving; but the<br>
>> other day when I stopped to refuel, the he=
atsink after turning<br>
>> off the engine caused the gauge to hit 200=
which vapor locks me<br>
>> every time. So I push back, lift the lid a=
nd air the engine for<br>
>> 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That u=
sually attracts an<br>
>> audience which helps pass the time. ? :-)<=
br>
>> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a =
difference IMO.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Richard C<br>
>><br>
>> BN7 440<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at=
22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net<br>
>> <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:bspidell@comcast.net">mailto:bspidell@comcast.net</a>>> wrote:<br=
>
>><br>
>> ? Somewhat relevan=
t, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a<br>
>> smaller pulley on =
the water pump for more flow? Would that<br>
>> just make turbulen=
ce/cavitation in the pump and hose?<br>
>><br>
>> bs<br>
>><br>
>> On 6/3/2021 2:11 P=
M, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Hi Ira:<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; I am not familiar with the direction of air around the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; radiator in the BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors<br>
>> &=
nbsp; built in to the frame in front of the radiator, but, not<br>
>> &=
nbsp; for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator<br>
>> &=
nbsp; produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator<br>
>> &=
nbsp; on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool<br>
>> &=
nbsp; water.? But it does not move the water very fast through<br>
>> &=
nbsp; the engine back to the radiator, especially under low<br>
>> &=
nbsp; rpms.? So I have introduced an electric water pump<br>
>> &=
nbsp; (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) to keep the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; flow of water through the radiator to the engine through<br>
>> &=
nbsp; the water pump and back to the radiator.? it adds 150<br>
>> &=
nbsp; liter per minute to the trickle produced by the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; mechanical pump.? I fact one of the listeners commented<br>
>> &=
nbsp; that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water<br>
>> &=
nbsp; pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install<br>
>> &=
nbsp; using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of<br>
>> &=
nbsp; the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x<br>
>> &=
nbsp; 1/8^th diameter holes in the thermostat to allow the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few<br>
>> &=
nbsp; min after the engine shut down which helps to reduce<br>
>> &=
nbsp; flashing of the hot water. And, I have a large radiator<br>
>> &=
nbsp; overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans,<br>
>> &=
nbsp; overflow containers, and some have an electric water<br>
>> &=
nbsp; pump.? 21^st century technology verses our 20^th<br>
>> &=
nbsp; century.? They even have AC power steering etc. systems<br>
>> &=
nbsp; as standard equipment.<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Bob Begani<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net><br>
>> &=
nbsp; <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-=
bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of *i<br>
>> &=
nbsp; erbs via Healeys<br>
>> &=
nbsp; *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
>> &=
nbsp; *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
>> &=
nbsp; <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net</a>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it<br>
>> &=
nbsp; has become an identifying feature of my car. I have a<br>
>> &=
nbsp; grille, I just have had various reasons to not instal it.<br>
>> &=
nbsp; I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at the<br>
>> &=
nbsp; Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus<br>
>> &=
nbsp; anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is<br>
>> &=
nbsp; good .<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-=
kit-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><=
br>
>> &=
nbsp; <<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-duct=
ing-kit-bn4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting=
-kit-bn4-bj8/</a>><br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-b=
j8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
>> &=
nbsp; <<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-b=
n4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a>&=
gt;<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Ira Erbs<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Milwaukie,OR<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; ? ? _______ ? ?_______<br>
>> &=
nbsp; ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
>> &=
nbsp; (_________________________)<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; 1967 MGB MG<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments.<br>
>> &=
nbsp; Mario Andretti<br>
>><br>
>> &=
nbsp; Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
>><br>
>> &=
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:29:19 -0400<br>
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com><br>
Cc: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>, Richard Collins<br>
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CAB3i7LJPeTMrhwWarwRbiR_8oLk=
10_b+G582sYOH6H2N2aTpuw@mail.gmail.com><br>
<br>
Although it probably won't make much difference to "heatsoak" sit=
uations<br>
one thing that was mentioned during our local club Zoom meeting was the<br>
idea of adding a 3rd blade to a standard 6 cyl fan, something I'd never<br>
heard of.<br>
This sounds like a very good idea and at least a couple of our members have=
<br>
done this with outstanding results.<br>
Slightly longer screws are recommended for securing the 3 blades to the<br>
waterpump pulley.<br>
<a href=3D"http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/706-53473-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=3D2&a=
mp;pub=3D5575378759&campid=3D5338273189&customid=3D&icep_item=
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<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 9:11 a.m. Perry Small, <healeyguy@aol.com> wro=
te:<br>
<br>
> What is the connection between vapor lock (a fuel delivery problem) an=
d a<br>
> gear reduction starter (consistent rotation of the crank) ?<br>
><br>
> Also the key to cooling an engine via a radiator ( heat exchanger) is =
air<br>
> flow. It seems correct that moving the water too quickly through the<b=
r>
> exchanger will limit the loss of heat from the coolant but air flow is=
very<br>
> important. The stock AH fans do not move many CFMs. Thus the reason th=
e<br>
> cars seem to do well, temp wise, at speed but very poorly idling along=
in a<br>
> holiday parade!<br>
> P<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:<br>
><br>
> ?<br>
><br>
> Besides all the equipment added to the engine radiator water system to=
<br>
> keep my Healey from over heating, the addition of a gear reduction sta=
rter<br>
> solved all the vapor lock issues starting my 67 BJ8. It starts the car=
even<br>
> when the engine is hot after a long run. Greatest thing since sliced b=
read,<br>
> if you want your wife to travel with you as generally, they do not lik=
e<br>
> helping you push the car away from the gas pumps and standing around<b=
r>
> waiting for the car to start. But, if you have a wife who likes =
to push<br>
> your Healey, she is a keeper.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Bob Begani<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *=
Michael<br>
> Salter via Healeys<br>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 7:35 AM<br>
> *To:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chamber=
s<br>
> when the vapor occurs.<br>
><br>
> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way<=
br>
> again.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> M<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <<br=
>
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
><br>
> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weat=
her<br>
> as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when =
I<br>
> stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused th=
e<br>
> gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift=
the<br>
> lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That us=
ually<br>
> attracts an audience which helps pass the time. :-)<br>
> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Richard C<br>
><br>
> BN7 440<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wro=
te:<br>
><br>
> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley=
on<br>
> the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitati=
on in<br>
> the pump and hose?<br>
><br>
> bs<br>
><br>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Ira:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the=
<br>
> BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front =
of<br>
> the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator=
. So<br>
> the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces=
a<br>
> hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone<=
br>
> should be sufficient to cool water. But it does not move the wat=
er very<br>
> fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpm=
s.<br>
> So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does g=
et<br>
> hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the<=
br>
> engine through the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds =
150 liter<br>
> per minute to the trickle produced by the mechanical pump. I fac=
t one of<br>
> the listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep t=
he<br>
> water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using<b=
r>
> existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to=
the<br>
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in the thermostat to=
<br>
> allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the=
<br>
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. =
; And, I<br>
> have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow<br>
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century<b=
r>
> technology verses our 20th century. They even have AC power stee=
ring<br>
> etc. systems as standard equipment.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Bob Begani<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net><br>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Heale=
ys<br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.te=
am.net><br>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become a=
n<br>
> identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had variou=
s<br>
> reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been lo=
oking<br>
> at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything t=
hat<br>
> directs more air through the Rad cores is good .<br>
><br>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-k=
it-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><=
br>
><br>
> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj=
8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
><br>
> Ira Erbs<br>
><br>
> Milwaukie,OR<br>
><br>
> _______ &nb=
sp; =
&nb=
sp; _______<br>
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
> (_______________=
__________)<br>
><br>
> BT7 engine=
and disk brakes<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1967 MGB [image: MG]<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<=
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><br>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 13:45:18 +0000<br>
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net&=
quot;<br>
<healeys@autox.team.net><b=
r>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<BN7PR08MB427678D641969CE2AA6=
4426FBF3B9@BN7PR08MB4276.namprd08.prod.outlook.com><br>
<br>
<br>
Well, cold water is a concept but not sure some likely splashing on hot hea=
ders is a good idea. Probably better to fuel up prior to a drive.<br>
My wife doesn?t care to drive in the Healey with me due to the backwash of =
the exhaust coming back in the cockpit on occasion. Plus she hates my drivi=
ng style which I say is ?sporting?. ;-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
BN7 440<br>
<br>
On Jun 4, 2021, at 06:34, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
?<br>
Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers whe=
n the vapor occurs.<br>
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <healeys@=
autox.team.net<mailto:healeys@autox.team.net>> wrote:<br>
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every
time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes an=
d then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps pass the =
time. :-)<br>
A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
BN7 440<br>
<br>
On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net<mailto:bs=
pidell@comcast.net>> wrote:<br>
<br>
? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on t=
he water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation in =
the pump and hose?<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
Hi Ira:<br>
<br>
I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the BN4,=
however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the frame in front of the ra=
diator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator. So =
the introduction of the shovel from the
frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the rad=
iator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water. But =
it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiato=
r, especially under low rpms. So I have
introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down un=
der) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine through t=
he water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter per minute =
to the trickle produced by the mechanical
pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he could turn off t=
he fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway speeds. It was eas=
y to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of th<b=
r>
e radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter hole=
s in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<br>
<br>
After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the engi=
ne shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water. And, I =
have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.<br>
<br>
Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow containe=
rs, and some have an electric water pump. 21st century technology ver=
ses our 20th century. They even have AC power steering etc. systems a=
s standard equipment.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net><mailto:healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an ide=
ntifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various reason=
s to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looking at th=
e Cape International kits to accomplish
the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is goo=
d .<br>
So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn=
4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-b=
j8/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";>h=
ttps://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><br>
Ira Erbs<br>
Milwaukie,OR<br>
_______ &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; _______<br>
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
(_________________________=
)<br>
BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<br>
<br>
<br>
1967 MGB [MG]<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:49:49 -0700<br>
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com><br>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Later steering box in a BN1<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:51:03 -0700<br>
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com><br>
To: "J. Scott Morris" <jstmorris@yahoo.com><br>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wind blocker material<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CAKkXjqN_siAaqwxPf+vPKQaoiWm=
nEyVX0qWwcVyLZyvOTe36pg@mail.gmail.com><br>
<br>
They both use poly-carbonate (plexi-glass). I am looking for the type=
of<br>
mesh that luxury cars use.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 2:18 PM J. Scott Morris <jstmorris@yahoo.com> =
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Richard; Attached are 2 files with discussions and photos abo=
ut 'Wind<br>
> Blockers' Hopefully they will help.<br>
><br>
> --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives<b=
r>
><br>
><br>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021, 04:32:45 p.m. EDT, richard mayor via Healeys =
<<br>
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> I have made a prototype wind blocker for my 3000 using some left over<=
br>
> plexiglass. But I need a suitable mesh fabric to really make it =
look<br>
> better. I've had no luck so far with my search. Any sugges=
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:16:24 -0400<br>
From: fsufan1952@yahoo.com<br>
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com><br>
Cc: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Healeys@autox.team.net<=
br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
<br>
This is my latest attempt on solving my vapor lock problems. I?ve installed=
a beer can size blower fan ducted onto my carbs . I just finished wi=
ring it to a switch under my dash . Now to test it out in the Florida sun .=
I?ll let you all know how it works out
?<br>
Don <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
<br>
> On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys <healeys@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ? Well, cold water is a concept but not sure some likely splashing on =
hot headers is a good idea. Probably better to fuel up prior to a drive.<br=
>
> My wife doesn?t care to drive in the Healey with me due to the backwas=
h of the exhaust coming back in the cockpit on occasion. Plus she hates my =
driving style which I say is ?sporting?. ;-)<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> Richard C<br>
> BN7 440<br>
> <br>
>>> On Jun 4, 2021, at 06:34, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gma=
il.com> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>> ?<br>
>> Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float cha=
mbers when the vapor occurs.
<br>
>> I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your =
way again.<br>
>> <br>
>> M<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys,=
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>
>>> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in =
hot weather as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other da=
y when I stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine cause=
d the gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks
me every time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 m=
inutes and then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps =
pass the time. :-)<br>
>>> A pulley change on my car wouldn?t make a difference IMO.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Richard C<br>
>>> BN7 440<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast=
.net> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ? Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a sm=
aller pulley on the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulen=
ce/cavitation in the pump and hose?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> bs<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hi Ira:<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the=
radiator in the BN4, however, the BJ8?s has deflectors built in to the fra=
me in front of the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under th=
e radiator. So the introduction of the shovel
from the frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and throug=
h the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water.&n=
bsp; But it does not move the water very fast through the engine back to th=
e radiator, especially under low rpms.
So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get h=
ot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the engine=
through the water pump and back to the radiator. it adds 150 liter p=
er minute to the trickle produced by
the mechanical pump. I fact one of the listeners commented that he c=
ould turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on highway spe=
eds. It was easy to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the=
bottom<br>
of the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diamete=
r holes in the thermostat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.=
<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a f=
ew min after the engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot=
water. And, I have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boi=
l over.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fa=
ns, overflow containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21st c=
entury technology verses our 20th century. They even have AC power st=
eering etc. systems as standard equipment.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Bob Begani<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> O=
n Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys<br>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
>>>>> To: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
>>>>> Subject: [Healeys] air ducting kit<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and=
it has become an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just ha=
ve had various reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and ha=
ve been looking at the Cape International kits
to accomplish the look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Ra=
d cores is good .<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> So has anyone done this or another kit?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radiat=
or-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/">
https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><=
br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-g=
rille-kit-bn4-bj8/">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn=
4-bj8/</a><br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Ira Erbs<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Milwaukie,OR<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> _______  =
; &n=
bsp;  =
; _______<br>
>>>>> (______ \____1959 BN4___=
_/ _______)<br>
>>>>> =
(_________________________)<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> &=
nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> 1967 MGB <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments.=
Mario Andretti<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled word=
s<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:07:08 -0700<br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:56:02 +0100<br>
From: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com><br>
To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com><br>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Later steering box in a BN1<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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Richard<br>
<br>
You will also have to change the idler, the steering arms, and maybe the<br=
>
track rod.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 14:55, richard mayor via Healeys <<br>
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> Is this an easy swap? Anyone have details?<br>
><br>
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