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Many, many moons ago (around 1963 or so, I was 16 and not really very
Healey wise), my 54, 100-4 was actually being driven daily and not
buried away in the back corner of the race barn/garage like it is
today. I usually used what ever oil was left over in the can (yes, can
back then it was in a can, from oil changes, generally from my Modified
Race Car. What weight , you say?  It was straight 50 Weight,
non-detergent, Oilzum. The car ran well with no ill effects
what-so-ever. The carbs were adjusted using a length of fuel line to
listen for proper synchronization (I certainty didn't have a fancy
synchronization tool or for that matter the extra money to buy one.
_bill
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On 6/16/2021 7:56 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote:
>
> Gâ??day
>
> As a matter of interest, the SUs fitted to our 1948 Healey Saloon are
> not fitted with rods at all.
>
> The caps are made from black Bakelite and I use dashpot oil sold by SU.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Salter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 June 2021 8:46 AM
> *To:* Harold Manifold
> *Cc:* Ahealey help
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Dashpot OIl Wt
>
> On later SUs with plastic caps a carb backfire will send the rod up
> through the cap if too heavy an oil is used.
>
> M
>
> On Tue., Jun. 15, 2021, 6:42 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys,
>
> I checked two versions of the Healy Workshop Manual:
>
> Issue 2 â?? 20W/20 or 20W/30
>
> Issue 9 â?? 10W/30 or 10W/40
>
> Both manuals have this statement â??In no circumstances should a
> heavy-bodied lubricant be usedâ??. The oil is to act as a damper and
> reduce the pistons in the carburetor from fluttering. Once the
> temperature gets above about 40 deg C the viscosity is very
> similar for all of the lubricants mentioned. Note 75W/90 gear oil
> is very close to 15W/40 motor oil. Straight 90 is probably not a
> good choice as it will be heavy-bodied at lower temperatures.
>
> The manuals suggest the lightest oil that will control piston
> flutter is the right one.
>
> Harold
>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Dashpot OIl Wt
>
> We have used 20 / 50 straight from an oil can on the bench for 40
> years and never had a problem.
>
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> 209-948-8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>
>
> *From:*Michael MacLean via Healeys
>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:18 PM
>
> *To:*Ahealey help
>
> *Subject:*[Healeys] Dashpot OIl Wt
>
> I watched a recent John Twist YouTube video today on fitting H
> type SU carbs to a T type MG. In the video he says to use 90 wt
> gear oil in the dashpot. He also said the lighter oils and ATF
> that so many people recommend contribute to the early wear and
> tear on the carb. Anyone else using this weight oil in the carb?Â
> All my life I have been putting 20 wt oil in the dashpot.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
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Many, many moons ago (around 1963 or so, I was 16 and not really
very Healey wise), my 54, 100-4 was actually being driven daily
and not buried away in the back corner of the race barn/garage
like it is today. I usually used what ever oil was left over in
the can (yes, can back then it was in a can, from oil changes,
generally from my Modified Race Car. What weight , you say?  It
was straight 50 Weight, non-detergent, Oilzum. The car ran well
with no ill effects what-so-ever. The carbs were adjusted using a
length of fuel line to listen for proper synchronization (I
certainty didn't have a fancy </font><font face="Arial"><font
face="Arial">synchronization tool or for that matter the extra
money to buy one</font>.</font><br>
<br>
_bill<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Gâ??day<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As a matter
of interest, the SUs fitted to our 1948 Healey Saloon are
not fitted with rods at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The caps are
made from black Bakelite and I use dashpot oil sold by
SU.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hoo
Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Patrick
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Blue
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> Healeys
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
Salter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 16 June 2021 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harold Manifold<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Dashpot OIl Wt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On later SUs with plastic caps a carb
backfire will send the rod up through the cap if too heavy
an oil is used.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue., Jun. 15, 2021, 6:42 p.m.
Harold Manifold via Healeys, <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">I checked two versions of the Healy
Workshop Manual:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Issue 2 â?? 20W/20 or
20W/30<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Issue 9 â?? 10W/30 or
10W/40<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Both manuals have this statement â??In no
circumstances should a heavy-bodied lubricant be
usedâ??. The oil is to act as a damper and reduce the
pistons in the carburetor from fluttering. Once the
temperature gets above about 40 deg C the viscosity
is very similar for all of the lubricants mentioned.
Note 75W/90 gear oil is very close to 15W/40 motor
oil. Straight 90 is probably not a good choice as it
will be heavy-bodied at lower
temperatures.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">The manuals suggest the lightest oil
that will control piston flutter is the right
one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Harold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span
lang="EN-US"><a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">David
Nock BCS via Healeys</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a
href="mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Michael
MacLean</a>; <a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Ahealey
help</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Dashpot OIl
Wt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Century","serif";color:black"
lang="EN-US">We have used 20 / 50 straight
from an oil can on the bench for 40 years and
never had a problem.</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Century","serif";color:black"
lang="EN-US">David Nock<br>
British Car Specialists<br>
209-948-8767<br>
<a
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Century","serif";color:black"
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-US"> Michael MacLean via
Healeys </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-US">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-US"> [Healeys] Dashpot OIl
Wt</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Â </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div id="m_5096095987976428959gmail-:1hh">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">I
watched a recent John Twist YouTube
video today on fitting H type SU carbs
to a T type MG. In the video he says
to use 90 wt gear oil in the dashpot.Â
He also said the lighter oils and ATF
that so many people recommend
contribute to the early wear and tear
on the carb. Anyone else using this
weight oil in the carb? All my life I
have been putting 20 wt oil in the
dashpot. </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Mike
MacLean</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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