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In the second illustration on BPN it shows a (claimed) larger scalloped
area on the impeller. Sounds reasonable but, according to Moss, it won't
fit the original heater cutoff valve, which I have and would like to
keep (one from Moss is almost $180).
On 8/29/2021 4:26 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Bob--
>
> Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in
> fact they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and
> $163.00 respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for the
> "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it
> does it--to justify such an increase. "Upgrade" might have several
> meanings and given the propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps
> the term describes longevity versus performance, with a better-quality
> seal. OTOH if the upgrade is in performance that usually means
> increased water flow. Unless the outer housing is substantially
> larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that much
> larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be achieved.
>
> Just sayin'....
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>
> Michael,
>
> The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be
> the same:
>
> https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html
> <https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html>
>
> (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
>
> Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss
> catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple.
> The cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell
> it's a County product. I've bad experiences with County, but both
> Tom Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.
>
> The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes
> with a barbed nipple:
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx
>
> <https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx>
>
>
> I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
> appears to be OK.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> --
> Best--Michael
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In the second illustration on BPN it shows a (claimed) larger
scalloped area on the impeller. Sounds reasonable but, according to
Moss, it won't fit the original heater cutoff valve, which I have
and would like to keep (one from Moss is almost $180).<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2021 4:26 AM, Michael Oritt
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Bob--</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Thanks and in
checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact
they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and
$163.00 respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for
the "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump
achieves--and how it does it--to justify such an increase.Â
"Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the propensity
of these pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity
versus performance, with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the
upgrade is in performance that usually means increased
water flow. Unless the outer housing is substantially larger
the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that
much larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be
achieved.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Just
sayin'.... </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07
PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> Michael,<br>
<br>
The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear
to be the same:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br>
<br>
(if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br>
<br>
Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the
Moss catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line
valve/nipple. The cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does,
but best I can tell it's a County product. I've bad
experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock
say they have fit many with no issues.<br>
<br>
The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also
comes with a barbed nipple:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose;
pump appears to be OK.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
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color="#3333ff">Best--Michael</font></div>
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