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Subject: Ignition systems and power
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:37:46 -0800
all right I am going to let you folks laugh at my ignorance.... but I am
going to explain myself and see what you think...

My Camaro didn't have a charging system... and it wasn't running an MSD..
well I now have an MSD and some folks like to use big high voltage I.E. 18
volt batteries... well I don't have a problem with running an alternator...
so long as that alternator doesn't have to charge a dead battery or have a
significant drain on it while on course..... so I decided to run two
batteries.. #1 for the fuel  pump/ ignition.... the # 2 system battery is
going to power the water pump/ cooling fan/ Air ride aircompressor and the
starting system

I am also going to hook up my warning lights to the first system... so
basically the main or ign batt... should remain fully charged at all times
and not put a load on the Alternator... but it will remain at a high state
of charge and gauruntee the basic 13.7 volts which the ignition system
should like....

The second battery just hangs out and starts the car and runs the junk...
what you think?
Keith Turk 
Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed Racer
Camaro ( D Gas Altered )



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> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Chuck Rothfuss
<crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Fire system plumbing
> Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 7:11 AM
> 
>       Anybody try 'Russell' to see if they have their anodized aluminum line
in
> 1/4" size. The 3/8" is only $24. for 25 feet. And you don't have to paint
it. 
>       Undercoat, wash and trade. Best way to handle the tow vehicle.
> 
>       JB
> 
> At 01:31 AM 3/12/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >wonderful point... I am painting the hell out of everything on this rag
of
> >a car.. hey Wal-Mart had a special.. it is every color in the Rainbow...
> >J/K but seriously the aircraft I flew had lots of special
requirements...
> >but mostly they had to have paint on parts to be protected... the car
when
> >I bought it had very little paint on the bottom... and one trip to the
salt
> >tells me that a fells couldn't make a worse mistake.... so now
everything
> >is getting a really good coat of paint.. I am sure it will rust all the
> >same... but at least I gave it a good try...
> >
> >I am really worried about my new truck and the effects of a week on the
> >salt with it... anyone out there done anything that worked on a new
> >vehicle?.... I really didn't want to undercoat it... if it comes back to
> >bad I will simply trade it in on another.... and let it go down the Road
> >only to destroy the next new one in 2000
> >
> >Keith Turk 
> >Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed Racer
> >Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
> >> To: land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Fire system plumbing
> >> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 8:02 PM
> >> 
> >> List,
> >> 
> >>   How about -4 AN braided stainless hose?  Speedway has it for $4.25 a
> >foot,
> >> and I think Jeg's was slightly cheaper.  My system came with it, and
it
> >was
> >> sure easy to install.  That oughto solve the salt problems.  If you
don't
> >> like braided hose, how about a good coat of paint.  We do something
> >that's
> >> similar to the mess at Bonneville when we drive military vehicles onto
> >the
> >> beach from landing craft.  A good fresh water wash and a salt water
check
> >of
> >> the fluids and they're good as new.  I wouldn't try that with my Jeep,
> >but
> >> with the CARC (Chemical Agent Resistant Coating) paint and heavy
> >> undercoating that these trucks get we really don't have too much
trouble.
> >> Just a thought.
> >> 
> >> Chuck Rothfuss
> >> ECTA 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> At 07:56 AM 3/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >Only problem with steel is it's reaction to salt. Not that alumium
> >doesn't
> >> >too, but it's not as bad as that rust.
> >> >
> >> >JB
> >> >
> >> >At 07:53 PM 3/10/99 -0500, Chuck Rothfuss wrote:
> >> >>Gents,
> >> >>
> >> >>  I've gotto make a couple observations about the use of aluminum
tube
> >for
> >> >>fire system plumbing.  Aluminum may be light and easy to work with,
but
> >it's
> >> >>also prone to being squashed.  How many times have you been working
on
> >the
> >> >>car when you bang things around inside your car?  Helmets, tools,
heavy
> >fuel
> >> >>cans, the occasional lawn chair.  Doesn't take much to smash an
> >aluminum
> >> >>tube enough that it wouldn't allow free halon flow. 
> >> >>
> >> >>  I know you can't be that concerned about weight to not go with
1/4"
> >steel
> >> >>tubing, or even -4 braided steel.  Both of these are a lot better
> >suited to
> >> >>the real world inside our cars.  1/4" steel tubing is cheap too at
> >under $20
> >> >>for 25 feet.  
> >> >>
> >> >>  If you really must have 1/4" aluminum tubing I can probably find
you
> >an
> >> >>aircraft supplier at work tomorrow, but it will be a bit more than
$20
> >for a
> >> >>25' roll.  Pegasus (800-688-6946) should have all the fittings you
> >need.
> >> >>
> >> >>  Hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >>Chuck "What was that noise?" Rothfuss
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>At 01:35 PM 3/10/99 -0500, John Beckett wrote:
> >> >>>Let us know if you find the 1/4" aluminum tube and fittings.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>JB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>At 10:58 AM 3/10/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >> >>>>well if I look real close and use my imagination.... I might be
> >capable of
> >> >>>>justifying a little leak in the Manifold Gasket... I hate this
> >part... the
> >> >>>>guessing thing .... there was so little water in the oil that none
> >was
> >> >>>>standing.... just came out a little milky... I was running Kendall
> >which
> >> >>>>may account for it not separating as easily... something about
ash..
> >Hell I
> >> >>>>don't remember what the engine builder said... but he was going to
> >pressure
> >> >>>>test the block today and that should help...answer the
question....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>gotta go find me some aluminum 1/4 inch tubing for the new fire
> >system... 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Keith Turk 
> >> >>>>Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed
> >Racer
> >> >>>>Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>----------
> >> >>>>> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
> >> >>>>> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> >> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:03 AM
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> Sorry to here about the water. The best laid plans of mice and
men,
> >and
> >> >>>>all
> >> >>>>> that stuff. At least you have another motor to step up to. Maybe
> >you'll
> >> >>>>get
> >> >>>>> lucky and find a head problem. You were going to change those
> >anyway,
> >> >>>>right.
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> JB
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> At 06:22 PM 3/9/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >yeah.. and today wasn't one I would call a record day.... found
> >some
> >> >>>>water
> >> >>>>> >in the oil of the C motor I was going to run in a couple of
weeks
> >..
> >> >>>>> >pulled it out to put the new heads and cam on it... damn
sam....
> >> >>>>couldn't
> >> >>>>> >find a gasket problem... so we are going to the Local motor
shop
> >to
> >> >>>>check
> >> >>>>> >it out... not good...
> >> >>>>> >I am worried about it having froze this winter... not likely
but
> >> >>>>> >possible... we don't have that many cold days here but the few
we
> >had
> >> >>>>could
> >> >>>>> >have been deadly... hmmm  Oh well it doesn't really matter
other
> >then I
> >> >>>>had
> >> >>>>> >this great plan put together.... now it is all up in the air...
> >You
> >> >>>>gotta
> >> >>>>> >love it... 
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >----------
> >> >>>>> >> From: V4GR@aol.com
> >> >>>>> >> To: kturk@ala.net
> >> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: another long day
> >> >>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:47 AM
> >> >>>>> >> 
> >> >>>>> >> In '78 we were running on a 103mph record or something like
> >that. I
> >> >>>>had
> >> >>>>> >my 32
> >> >>>>> >> five window stock roof with a 270 GMC and 2 Corvair turbos.
> >Didn't
> >> >>>>cost
> >> >>>>> >much
> >> >>>>> >> and went 158 one way. My Vega has run in BGas/Alt with a
fourbbl
> >460
> >> >>>>Ford
> >> >>>>> >> (198) and a more expensive 455 Pontiac ( not mine-208 mph)
and
> >now
> >> >>>>with a
> >> >>>>> >392
> >> >>>>> >> which is given parts from a boat racer who stepped up to a KB
> >and swap
> >> >>>>> >meet
> >> >>>>> >> stuff. No new parts and I expect it might run around 200. No
> >records
> >> >>>>> >there.
> >> >>>>> >> Jack Costallas liner is so slick that I think my Nissan V6 in
> >his car
> >> >>>>> >should
> >> >>>>> >> be ok. We are hoping for 260 on a 220 record. We'll see. He
went
> >332
> >> >>>>with
> >> >>>>> >a
> >> >>>>> >> 302 sbc using a 4bbl manifold and 4 Quadjet secondary
> >butterflies for
> >> >>>>his
> >> >>>>> >own
> >> >>>>> >> injectors.
> >> >>>>> >> We all plan this so well we should be able to phone in
results,
> >and
> >> >>>>BNI
> >> >>>>> >mail
> >> >>>>> >> out trophies. But no, we have to see what happens on the
salt.  
> >     
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>>> >See
> >> >>>>> >> you there              Rich Fox
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> 
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