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RE: Electronics vs. old way

To: "Beth Butters" <bbutters@dmi.net>
Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
From: "keith turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:39:21 -0600
I hung out with Ragsdale last ECTA meet.... and he has a Nice Stude and
Motor combination... If there was a way we may need to go to something like
a NON ELECTRONICS class someday.... in the mean time .. I gotta Play the
game I think.... I am chasing the same record as Bob.... D Gas Altered....
Or Blown till Rains Blew it away.... Now I really don't have a clue where I
am going.... Kugal is supposed to run B next year... and I really don't
want to run an E motor.... so that leaves me running Gas Altered again and
building what I want to drive anyway.... or at least that is the Plan this
week.... We'll See.... Keith

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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:44:40 -0800 bbutters@dmi.net wrote:


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From:  Carl Dreher[SMTP:focusrsh@arn.net]
Sent:  Friday, November 12, 1999 7:48 PM
Cc:  land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject:  Re: Electronics vs. old way  

       I've been wandering if the day isn't coming  when  the supercharged
classes are going to be dominated  by the  electronics managed tubocharged
motors and us guys who just don't want to go their  are racing  amongst
ourselves.  I watch cars like Krugels  CBG/Alt  put the record where  AA
cars dream of going.  It would appear that if you have the money and the
inkling to  use electronics to manage a tubo'd motor it is possible to pull
hundreds more HP  than  you can with mechanical means.  I guess I wander if
one day the records will be split between electronics managed motors and
non. Kind of give us our own XO classes, maybe NE class (no electronics) 
or will we just  kind of disappear from the scene??  I admit I'm stuck in
the 60s but I like old cars and the way they were made to run back then and
besides  I will also feel great if I can get my Hilborn to work properly. 
Anybody else feel the same way? I know that either way you do it, It is a
great challenge  with sat!
isfying results  and electronics  is here and now and the future, I just
feel  its two different ball games, maybe its okay if  we go the way of
Vintage racing  someday.  I've been crewing on Bob Ragsdales 53 stude
CBG/alt for the last few years which he has really worked to get the record
in the class. In l996 we qualified on an open record just in front of 
David Parks  tubocarged  early Camaro, we broke and he set the record at
225, fought on for a couple of years and along comes Krugals awesome car 
which puts the record where no Studebaker is likely to ever go. So  its to
D class last year and along comes John Rain who sets the record at
something like 247, about dreamable max for Bobs car with its now near
state of the art dialed in  injected, intercooled 671 supercharged chev
with electronic surveillance. So off to another class hopping some  super
sleek  tubo'd car doesn't get to the line before he has a chance.  I hate
to see cars like this disappear  like the flathea!
ds  and GMC six cars almost did.  Keep an eye on the situation in 
of us can get suggestion forms at the timing stand and take action to keep
this style of doing things alive.  Regards Kvach in N.Idaho



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