I've got it set up in 9 folders. One of the
smallest was stuff I asked about fuel. I printed
it and it's 60 pages long. This could make a
good book, sprinkle in a bunch of pictures - hey?
Dick J
--- Doug Anderson <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> ...and a dam good idea that would be Dick. I
> don't think you jabber at
> all. you just use the list to its fullest
> -kinda like "runnin it out the
> back door" as it were. I, and I'm sure many
> others 'preciate ALL the
> "jabber" that comes across here
> -cause you ain't the only one
> "savin the good stuff"
>
> Boy I sure am sorry I was'nt out there this
> year by the looks of all the
> posts of those that were, it musta been some
> tooo-do.
>
> All you guys are something else! What
> a bunch of pirates.
>
> Hot Rods forever, "Dirty Doug"
>
>
> From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> To: "Thomas E. Bryant"
> <saltracer@awwwsome.com>, Keith Turk
> <kturk@ala.net>
> CC: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>, DOUG ODOM
> <popms@thegrid.net>,
> land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Motor Damage
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Tom and Keith.
>
> Keith, thanks for having the problems that
> predicated the solutions. Tom and others,
> thanks
> for the solutions. I know I jabber a lot on
> this
> list, but I am eating up every bit of advice I
> see and trying to make up for having one year
> of
> experience fity times over. I print every
> message that I feel pertains to what I may be
> doing with my car, and I had to get a bigger
> ring
> binder this weekend. I am getting a pretty
> good
> reference manual together which covers
> everything
> from tire size and gear ratios, to compression
> ratios and roll cage construction. Shoot, I
> may
> edit it and publish it as a reference for
> Newbee
> Land Speed Racers.
>
>
> Dick J
>
>
> --- "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
> wrote:
> > Keith,
> >
> > I can't sit by silently and watch this
> unfold.
> > I consider myself to be
> > well educated in Nitrous Talk. I have
> learned
> > what I know the way you
> > are being educated, slowly and costly.
> >
> > I suspect that the engine was too lean which
> > resulted in a holed piston.
> > Was the hole a clean burn through, or a
> > fractured hole? If it was
> > timing, you will normally have a hammered
> hole
> > producing fractures on
> > the underside of the dome. A clean burn
> through
> > is usually mixture. At
> > least that has been my experience.
> >
> > I believe that someone suggested that you
> find
> > your best timing and then
> > set up the retard. That would be my
> suggestion
> > as well. I was talking to
> > some of those on list about timing on my
> > motors. I used to start out by
> > finding how much timing the engine wanted
> and
> > then go to other tune up
> > matters, for the last several years I have
> been
> > taking others advice and
> > staying with 38 degrees or so. This year,
> > because John and Lionel had
> > "raised the bar", I knew I had to get the
> most
> > from the motor, so I went
> > back to my old ways. Believe it or not, our
> > best run last week 222.134
> > MPH was with 49 degrees BTDC. As I have said
> > many times, each engine has
> > it's own requirements, so don't set yours up
> > like mine.
> >
> > I will get the whole story of our week out
> > later. Right now I am playing
> > catch up at work and washing salt off. I
> still
> > have to find out how bad
> > we hurt the motor. A head gasket I believe.
> The
> > engine temp 250 degree
> > gauge was pegged on every run. Something had
> to
> > give sooner or later.
> >
> > Tom, Redding CA - #216 D/GCC
> >
> > Keith Turk wrote:
> > >
> > > Well the one thing we know is that the
> Piston
> > didn't have a hole in it until
> > > I hit the N2O..... it was running 17 mph
> > faster then it was on the Pass we
> > > went 218 on.... at the 3... 16 more at the
> 2
> > 1/4.... The car was on the
> > > pass it was going to take to set the
> > Record.... then I hit that nasty little
> > > Red button just to see what it would
> do....
> > >
> > > Instant Hole ...Just add Nitrous... oh
> > well...it could be worse...
> > >
> > > Keith... ( Why Yes Doug I understand the
> > Greed concept)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > Cc: "DOUG ODOM" <popms@thegrid.net>;
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 10:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Motor Damage
> > >
> > > > Keith, in response to: "if you run a
> 225hp
> > Nitrous hit on 4 degrees of
> > > retard
> > > > for less then 3 seconds... you Burn a
> Hole
> > about 1/4 X1/8 in the top of
> > > the #2
> > > > Piston." I would argue that you
> cannot
> > blame it completely on the
> > > ignition
> > > > timing, I feel that the burning
> sensation
> > the piston felt was a result
> > > more of a
> > > > lean mixture than timing, Mr.
> > Dahlgren...others....what do you think?
> > > >
> > > > You guys gave me crap when I said I used
> > alot of bandaids this time of
> > > year,
> > > > well who needs a stinking compression
> > gauge, we didnt need no stinking
> > > > compression guage, on the last thrash
> the
> > day of the last qualifing runs
> > > we
> > > > fired it up, and when we shut it off and
> > reached for the tool box for the
> > > > regularly scheduled compression and or
> leak
> > down check, we all looked at
> > > each
> > > > other with the realization that it didnt
> > matter what the gauge said, "WE
> > > WERE
> > > > RUNNING IT" so why the hell even look
> (no
> > time to do anything about it if
> > > it was
> > > > low)? first miles on the motor netted
> > 193.9 running out of nitrous (2 mph
> > > over
> > > > the record), next morning WELL over the
> > record again ran out of nitrous,
> > > can
> > > > there ever be enough nitrous, I SAY NO
>
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..........Dick J.............
......(In East Texas)........
..........# 729..............
........Roadsters............
.Hemis and Flatheads Forever.
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