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Re: Shocks/Towing

To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
Subject: Re: Shocks/Towing
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 06:52:53 -0500
Every race car i ever trailered was blocked up not a new
idea..But a real good one hate to put 10k miles on a set of
race shocks towing and 100 miles racing and have them worn
out.
Dave

Keith Turk wrote:
> 
> Okay I have replaced all the shocks on the car this year due to Trailering
> the car without it being Blocked up in the trailer... in other words... if
> it was on Blocks the suspension on the car wouldn't work.... or become used
> up junk.... and the wheel bearings wouldn't become pitted from sitting in a
> single location for a 5000 mile trip.... or 3 of them as was the case this
> year....
> 
> Just a thought... for us Long distance folks... K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
> To: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>
> Cc: "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Coil Over (2)
> 
> > List,
> > Bilstein shocks can be found on most of the newer Chevy pickups and SUV
> vehicles.
> > They are a great shock. Normally we could see shocks leaking in the 50-60K
> range on
> > these vehicles most now you dont see at all leaking, and the ones you do
> see
> > leaking have 100K plus on the odometer with them, throw the monroes and
> gabriels
> > out. I agree with Ed, Bilsteins are the way to go for longevity.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > Ed Van Scoy wrote:
> >
> > > WARNING! Opinion Follows! May not be good but it's mine (Isn't that what
> you
> > > always say Keith?) Your mileage may vary...............................
> > >
> > > #1  1st off, I would go with Bilstein shocks. There is probably no real
> > > difference between the quality of the Bilsteins and Koni (or possibly
> others)
> > > but Bilstein is REAL good at customer support. If you get the right
> shocks to
> > > begin with, you will never have to rebuild them. They are pretty durable
> and
> > > shouldn't wear out with LSR use. If for some reason you need/want them
> > > re-valved, the current cost is $55 each. FMI:
> > >
> > > Western Office:
> > > 8845 Rehco Road,
> > > San Diego, CA 92121
> > > (800) 537-1085
> > >
> > > #2  I favor the fixed rate springs with height adjustment. I also prefer
> stiff
> > > suspension The coils are fairly cheap & come in many spring rates if you
> need
> > > to change the ride. When I went to stiffer shocks & springs on my Vette,
> > > handling improved greatly. You don't need much for suspension travel on
> salt -
> > > dry lakes are a different story.
> > >
> > > #3 See above. I would get the opinion of a chassis expert. My guess is
> you are
> > > going to want to start in the 500# range for coils.(again Bilstein might
> help)
> > > You didn't ask, but I'm gonna throw this in as it is also time to think
> about
> > > this now, and that is sway bars. Since I still have the IRS, I added a
> > > heim-jointed heavy bar to the front which tightened up the rear real
> well. That
> > > worked so well that I added a stiffer bar on the rear and things got
> even
> > > better. With a solid axle, the geometry changes completely, and is out
> of my
> > > range of experience. You may not want/need to use bars at all, but since
> it is
> > > "part of the whole" I would be thinking about it. I would be curious to
> know
> > > what set-up Stansbury-Moore uses.(Is Bobby Moore on this list?) This
> whole
> > > issue seems tailor-made for Joe Timney as he builds chassis. (haven't
> heard
> > > much from Joe lately, he must be buried in snow..........)
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Ken Bond wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if this is a repeat but I sent it yesterday and did
> > > > not see it show up.  Again, sorry if this is a dup.
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > >
> > > > I am putting a Ford 9" under the rear-end of a 85 corvette and need to
> put
> > > > together a set of coil overs for the suspension.  Since this is my
> first
> > > > experience with coil over, there are lots of things I don't
> understand.
> > > >
> > > > 1st... some shocks are rebuildable/revalvable.... Do I care in a
> Bonneville
> > > > application?  Do they get enough used over a few seasons to make this
> > > > something I need?
> > > >
> > > > 2nd... Springs come in variable rate and standard?'  Again, are their
> pros
> > > > and cons for my application?
> > > >
> > > > 3rd... Since I am taking out a transverse leaf spring rear-end system,
> any
> > > > starting guess' as to what weight springs I need?  When the car is
> > > > finished, the total car will be ~3500 lbs before we start playing with
> > > > ballast (if any).
> > > >
> > > > **************
> > > >
> > > > As I side note, I sent Ed a private message asking about coil overs on
> the
> > > > FRONT of his Vette, but if anyone else would like to chip in a comment
> or
> > > > two on that issue, I would love to hear form them as well.
> > > >
> > > > KEN
> > > >
> > > >   In far Northern Calif. it is way, way wet... but then some of us
> just
> > > >   consider it self-shoveling snow  :-).  Hope you folks with really
> bad
> > > >   weather are making out OK.
> > > >
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