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Subject: Fwd: Twin Engine 1915 Indian Twindian
From: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:33:48 EST
In a message dated 12/19/2000 10:50:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
kturk@ala.net writes:

<< 
 by the way YES I think the Land Speed guys are into anything that your
 interested in.... that is the wonder of the sport.. all of us bring
 something different to the table.... K
 
 ----------
 > From: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
 > To: kturk@ala.net
 > Subject: Re: Twin Engine 1915 Indian Twindian
 > Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:23 PM
 > 
 > In a message dated 12/19/2000 8:52:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 kturk@ala.net 
 > writes:
 > 
 > << Wasn't a power Plus was it?  Non Skid tires and All?
 >  
 >  Hmmm I worked for Ken Young and sons Indians as a kid.... K
 >   >>
 > Keith,
 >     It's a 1916 style year Power Plus that the original owner converted
 to a 
 > twin engine sometime before 1924. The engine numbers are very low so I'm 
 > pretty sure it was made in late 1915, making it eligible for the
 Horseless 
 > Carriage Club.
 >     The guy who built it married his widow (who sold it to me) in 1924,
 and 
 > by the time they got married he had converted it from a single engine and
 run 
 > it enough to put a lot of wear on it and parked it.
 >     Sometime in the 50's or 60's their son tinkered with it and got it 
 > running, much to the chagrin of the "old-man". After the "old-man" died
 in 
 > the 80's I got the call to help the widow and daughters (the son died in
 the 
 > 70's) sort out a couple of acres of junk, interlaced with "pearls". Among
 the 
 > stuff were several Flatty engine blocks, a couple of 1934 Ford PU's, a
 Tucker 
 > car, a Lambretta motor scooter in the original crate, and an extensive 
 > collection of motorcycle parts and pieces.
 >     Some motorcycle collector had already bought most of the bike stuff 
 > before I came on the scene, but for some reason the Twindian was still
 there, 
 > either because he didn't want the hybrid or because the widow wanted to
 find 
 > a better home for it.
 >     I spent parts of a couple of years sorting through the stuff,
 directing 
 > them to either "dumpster" or "swap-meet" the items. I took a shine to the
 
 > Twindian and the widow took a shine to me, so it ended up in my
 collection.
 >     It needed some TLC, but after building a new gas/oil tank, chiseling
 the 
 > fossilized tires off the rims, rebuilding the carburetor, and replacing
 the 
 > spark plugs the thing came to life. It had a common manifold with a
 single 
 > Schebler carb but retained the separate mags on each engine. When I
 started 
 > it the sound was unique, not like any V-Twin I'd ever heard. The engines
 were 
 > connected and timed in such a manner that it sounded kinda like a Ford
 Flatty.
 >     I made the local antique motorcycle meet circuit with the thing for a
 
 > year or so, then turned it over to a local machinist to restore. He had
 it a 
 > year or so before getting a lot of the basics done, then it sat in my
 home 
 > for several years waiting for someone to do the detail work and get it 
 > running again.
 >     Presently the young (30's) guy who's doing my BB Rajo converted 1914 
 > Rootleib "T" Speedster is working on finishing the Twindian.
 >     If I have a scanned pic of the semi-finished bike I'll attach it to
 this 
 > "E" mail. Let me know if you think that the LSR guys would enjoy the
 story 
 > and I'll post it. I understand that the LSR list won't accept attachments
 
 > such as pictures......
 >                                                     Ardun Doug King
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From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
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Subject: Re: Twin Engine 1915 Indian Twindian
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Doug that is unreal.... lots of memories... Ken had a 1918 power plus I got
to sweep around... 

Did you mean that Denny Young was restoring it for you?   I hadn't thought
of Denny in a long time...I know Ken died.. but he was old when I worked
there... always loved that old guy.... fabulous man with his hands... gave
me an infinite respect for a quality mechanic....

Denny was always very nice to me.... all I wanted was to work around
motorcycles at that time.... didn't have a dime in my pocket but I was
willing to work for a dollar an hour and hang out when I wasn't pushing a
broom.

by the way YES I think the Land Speed guys are into anything that your
interested in.... that is the wonder of the sport.. all of us bring
something different to the table.... K

----------
> From: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
> To: kturk@ala.net
> Subject: Re: Twin Engine 1915 Indian Twindian
> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:23 PM
> 
> In a message dated 12/19/2000 8:52:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
kturk@ala.net 
> writes:
> 
> << Wasn't a power Plus was it?  Non Skid tires and All?
>  
>  Hmmm I worked for Ken Young and sons Indians as a kid.... K
>   >>
> Keith,
>     It's a 1916 style year Power Plus that the original owner converted
to a 
> twin engine sometime before 1924. The engine numbers are very low so I'm 
> pretty sure it was made in late 1915, making it eligible for the
Horseless 
> Carriage Club.
>     The guy who built it married his widow (who sold it to me) in 1924,
and 
> by the time they got married he had converted it from a single engine and
run 
> it enough to put a lot of wear on it and parked it.
>     Sometime in the 50's or 60's their son tinkered with it and got it 
> running, much to the chagrin of the "old-man". After the "old-man" died
in 
> the 80's I got the call to help the widow and daughters (the son died in
the 
> 70's) sort out a couple of acres of junk, interlaced with "pearls". Among
the 
> stuff were several Flatty engine blocks, a couple of 1934 Ford PU's, a
Tucker 
> car, a Lambretta motor scooter in the original crate, and an extensive 
> collection of motorcycle parts and pieces.
>     Some motorcycle collector had already bought most of the bike stuff 
> before I came on the scene, but for some reason the Twindian was still
there, 
> either because he didn't want the hybrid or because the widow wanted to
find 
> a better home for it.
>     I spent parts of a couple of years sorting through the stuff,
directing 
> them to either "dumpster" or "swap-meet" the items. I took a shine to the

> Twindian and the widow took a shine to me, so it ended up in my
collection.
>     It needed some TLC, but after building a new gas/oil tank, chiseling
the 
> fossilized tires off the rims, rebuilding the carburetor, and replacing
the 
> spark plugs the thing came to life. It had a common manifold with a
single 
> Schebler carb but retained the separate mags on each engine. When I
started 
> it the sound was unique, not like any V-Twin I'd ever heard. The engines
were 
> connected and timed in such a manner that it sounded kinda like a Ford
Flatty.
>     I made the local antique motorcycle meet circuit with the thing for a

> year or so, then turned it over to a local machinist to restore. He had
it a 
> year or so before getting a lot of the basics done, then it sat in my
home 
> for several years waiting for someone to do the detail work and get it 
> running again.
>     Presently the young (30's) guy who's doing my BB Rajo converted 1914 
> Rootleib "T" Speedster is working on finishing the Twindian.
>     If I have a scanned pic of the semi-finished bike I'll attach it to
this 
> "E" mail. Let me know if you think that the LSR guys would enjoy the
story 
> and I'll post it. I understand that the LSR list won't accept attachments

> such as pictures......
>                                                     Doug King

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