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Re: About that Banks Truck... the old one, that is

To: "Jim Webb" <jwebb@mastnet.net>, "Land-Speed"
Subject: Re: About that Banks Truck... the old one, that is
From: "landspeedracer" <landspeedracer@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:02:31 -0400
I saw the trunk in '89.
There was no turbo
There was no 4WD
And when they ran the 300" motor it was in "D".

JB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Webb" <jwebb@mastnet.net>
To: "Land-Speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:56 PM
Subject: About that Banks Truck... the old one, that is


> List,
>
> Someone once suggested that I contribute to the list more often. That
person
> may eventually regret that statement <grin>.
>
> I have a question concerning a certain record in the rule book. It seems
> there is a record in E/P/MP for GMC/Banks Engineering from 1989 @ 183+.
> (That's Production Mid Mini Pickup for you roadster drivers). I have found
> this record to be troubling ever since it appeared in the book. Perhaps
some
> of you that actually saw this vehicle in 1989 can comment and maybe shed
> some light on what class it really belongs in.
>
> From the urban legends, this competition vehicle (which did have a really
> cool paint job) was a 4.3 liter turbocharged V6 which was a precursor or
> beta release of the production GMC Typhoon/Chevy Syclone trucks. I have
also
> found a web site that indicates that the actual competition truck used a
5.0
> liter, normally aspirated engine.
>
> OK, here's my beef.
>
> If indeed the truck was a turbo 4.3 with fulltime factory 4-wheel drive,
it
> does not belong in Production since both the turbo and the full-time 4WD
> make it illegal for that class - it should go immediately to Modified for
> either or both without stopping at Go or collecting $200. It would also
seem
> that a turbo would boost (pun intended) it to a 'C' motor since a blower
is
> supposed to cost two engine sizes. Even so, a 4.3L is a D, not and E.
> <Heavens, my head is starting to spin> Regardless of whether it is
> Production or Modified, it seems that the E designation is wrong.
>
> Also, if it was indeed a 5.0 liter, it REALLY doesn't belong in that class
> since there have never been any production 5.0L S-10/Sonoma trucks built.
> BTW, a 5.0L is also a D.
>
> So, what was the real motor???? If it was a 'production' turbo Buick V6 as
> delivered in the Syclone/Typhoon trucks, does that mean the same engine
> combination can compete nowadays as 'Production' with no penalty for being
> blown? And what about that pesky 4WD that was standard on all
> Syclone/Typhoons? Was the GMC/Banks truck 4WD?
>
> I'm not looking to throw stones here, just tryin'- to understand. I
realize
> that when this thing ran, there was no real class for it and it was stuck
in
> the new truck classes when they were introduced. However, it DOES set a
> precedent for future attempts at whatever record it ends up in, so it
really
> will matter to somebody someday.
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone that can help with this conundrum.
>
> Jim

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