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Re: [Land-speed] O2 Sensor Bung Extender

To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever@comcast.net>, "land-speed"
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] O2 Sensor Bung Extender
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:13:07 -0400
Do a google search on lsu 4.2 and you might find the neirst cell needs 600 c 
just to operate....that is over 1100 F klaus can do all the calcs in the 
world but response time for meaningful data is around 300 ms..... the 
farther you are from the combustion chamber the slower it gets as well.. BTW 
what is molecular speed in milkes per 
hour??????????????????????????????????? or furlongs per fortnight if 
necessary.. sigh.,............
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever@comcast.net>
To: "land-speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] O2 Sensor Bung Extender


> Mayf: There are two issues. The sensor body temp is limited to a max of 
> 900
> deg F and the gas temp limit is about 1300 deg F.  Part number 3764 costs
> $12.00 and raises the sensor tip out of the hot flowing gases. If the 
> sensor
> is located at least 10-12 inches downstream of the turbine you may not 
> have
> a sensor-body-temp problem but a hot gas problem. 3764 gets the sensor tip
> out of the hot gas stream. If you feel you need the $89 heat sink you can
> make one simply with some small copper stock. Drill a hole the same size 
> of
> the sensor thread OD and us the copper stock as a gasket when you screw 
> the
> sensor into your existing bung. That should solve the problem and if you
> could direct air to it that would be even better. Any copper tubing left
> over after plumbing the shop for compressed air?  Cut a small piece. Slice
> it lengthwise and hammer it flat. Annealing may be required. A 2 inch 
> square
> should be all you need.
>
>
>
> According to Klaus (Mr. Innovate tech director) there is no time lag with 
> a
> stand-off scenario. Gas particles are traveling at molecular speed. The WB
> is doing about 1,000 calculations per sec but averaging them and reporting
> at 12/sec.   -Elon
>
>
>
> drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
>
> I may have toasted my O2 sensor last time out. It is in a very hot exhaust
> gas location, just after the turbo. I know that Innovate sells teh HBX-1
> extender and it costs 89 bucks But, are there other off the shelf 
> extenders
> that may be a tad cheaper?  I think I would also like one a bit longer 
> than
> the HBX-1 just for insurance.  I can make one also, from a damaged O2
> sensor...
>
>
>
> Does the length of an extender play much part in the lag time of a 
> reading?
> Seems to me it would.
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