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Re: [Land-speed] Fire Bottle Mounting Schemes

To: "'Joe Timney'" <joetimney@dol.net>, <neil@dbelltech.com>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fire Bottle Mounting Schemes
From: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:35:34 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
These were not graded, just common hardware. Never even considered it in
this type of application. Obviously, I should have, but a result of the
crash not the cause.

Tom

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From: neil@dbelltech.com
Date: 10/14/09 16:27:44
To: 'Tom Bryant';  'Joe Timney'
Cc: 'LAND SPEED LIST'
Subject: RE: [Land-speed] Fire Bottle Mounting Schemes

Tom;

What kind of bolts & nuts were the ones that failed? Were these commercial
Grade 5 or Grade 8? Looking at the markings on the head of each bolt will
tell the story.

Learning from data like this will be a help in the future to other racers.

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ

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From: land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Bryant
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Joe Timney
Cc: 'LAND SPEED LIST'
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fire Bottle Mounting Schemes

This is just for thought. I found that bolts securing many things on my car
did not stand up to what the car went through the crash. Three 5-pound
bottles were secured as a group by 4 - 1/4" bolts and the oil tank was
mounted with 4 - 5/16 bolts.  Both were striped from the car, shearing the
bolts and tearing loose from the fire bottle actuator cables and oil tank
steel braided hoses. I had Deist aluminum bottle brackets on the bottles
which survived fine, What is interesting is that the Nitrous bottles, which
are much heavier, stayed in place.

Tom

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From: Joe Timney
Date: 10/14/2009 7:25:07 AM
Cc: 'LAND SPEED LIST'
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fire Bottle Mounting Schemes

I have 4.0", 4.25",4.375",5.0" and 5.250" diameter clamps, black hard
coated with two, 25 dia. thru holes and two, drilled and tapped .25-20
thrd. What size bottles do you have???
You could use a flat plate, mount the bottles and brackets to it, then
mount the plate.

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