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Subject: gear oil
From: Johnmowog@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:29:59 EDT
Regarding the viscosity question, I believe you have said what I said 
already. 
As far as 80W/90 in an overdrive, the word "virtually" is important here. 
Also, BL was fond, as I pointed out, of making recommendations that they 
later retracted. Further, this list has already repeatedly rebutted the 
arguments in favor of using ANYTHING but engine oil in an overdrive. All of 
the manuals I've ever seen, as well the Moss catalog (let's remember, Moss 
has considerable access to technical and historical expertise both in the 
States and Europe and England) every Brit car  parts person and every gearbox 
builder I've ever known say the same thing... Use anything but engine oil in 
an overdrive at your own peril! Also, Volvo, who uses the same Laycock 
overdrive in their 60-70's vintage cars, issue the same strong prohibition 
against anything but engine oil in their boxes. So let's not go down that 
tired thread again, you are misinformed and I hope not at the cost of a pricy 
OD tranny.
As far as using ATF goes, the viscosity of atf is much lower than the nominal 
30w oil recommended and again is intended for a different application. It 
will not provide the same performance/wear dynamics as the intended lube.
The folks who built these boxes had access to the same atf we have today, if 
they had thought it was a good idea they  would have recommended it. Too 
thin, too thick, or too slippery can all cause problems not discernable for 
many miles, as well as too many or too few additives will. "Just cause it 
works now doesn't mean it's right for later" is a good thing to keep in mind.


In a message dated 7/4/1999 4:24:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
gmccann@pcug.org.au writes:

<< The specification from MG for the gearbox in a MGB GT V8 with overdrive is
 80W/90 so there goes the argument against using it.  The GT V 8 gearbox is
 virtually identical to the four cylinder MGB.
 
 I have a letter from Castrol in which the Technical Manager states that
 80W/90 is, in viscosity terms, thinner than 20W/50.  Gear oils use a
 different index. There is often the conclusion that 80W/90 must be
 "thicker" than 20W/50 because the numbers are higher.
 
 The main difference with gear oils that there have lower levels of
 detergents, they work better under extreme heat and they have lower
 frothing characteristics.
 
 Having said all that it is not uncommon here in Australia to use automatic
 transmission oil in the MGB gearbox.
 
 Graham
 97 MGF
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