I can not figure out why my listings dont go to the list unless I tie them
to a reply...
any ideas. I am using the mgs@autox.team.net as an address to send the mail
but never get it on my list...hhmmmmm. Sorry to bother you with this just
wanted to see if it would work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Susan and John Roper <vscjohn@huntnet.net>
To: <WSpohn4@aol.com>
Cc: <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: V8 Musings
> Bill, I do indeed see the charm. Long ago while daydreaming it seemed to
me that
> a built 2L Alfa w/5 speed would be most interesting is a B. Still sounds
neat,
> and I've got the Alfa in the loft. Still have the neandethal problem.
Can't
> quite see a stroked and relieved Merc flatty in the B, but a Rover that
makes
> power at 7500 really appeals. I would much enjoy giving up what little
hearing I
> have left after 30 years of race motors to your C. 3 into ones or ? i
hope its
> nice and cool up there so you can enjoy the top down this weekend. John
>
> WSpohn4@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 23/07/99 9:57:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > vscjohn@huntnet.net writes:
> >
> > << I would ultimately like to build something that will capture that
same
> > character--a 3.5 built to turn serious revs and stay together, less
torque
> > but
> > plenty of top end power, and it will have that one special
characteristic
> > that no
> > 4 or 6 can give.. It will sound like a hot V8. >>
> >
> > John, another option might be the GM Quad cam DOHC version of their 60
deg.
> > V6, which revs like a fiend, and looks like a Maser motor underneath the
> > shrouds. Apparently some of the Grand Prix GTX fans are getting pretty
good
> > power out of them, and using the right chip they redline at 7000.
> >
> > If you think exhaust is a problem on the B, you should see my other
stuff.
> > The Fiero engine bay is chock full of turbo and exhaust system, and set
the
> > trunk carpet to smouldering before I added a heat shield. The Twincam
race
> > car has headers that barely clear the frame member that goes from the
> > firewall down to the front suspension - I have seen people cut these out
> > doing swaps on A's, but feel that they are pretty important
structurally. Saw
> > a V8 conversion in a TR3 once, where they left out the front cross brace
to
> > clear the 283 - the two suspension towers were slowly folding in to meet
each
> > other!
> >
> > The MGC is another one that we made headers for - twin 2" pipes out the
back,
> > and no real room for silencers any bigger than small glasspacks means
that we
> > don't boot it in populated areas. It's OK at low rpm and other than wide
open
> > throttle (although it does have a tendency to set off nearby car alarms
when
> > you fire it up in a parking lot), but if you floor it, when it passes
3000
> > rpm, birds fall out of the sky and strong men swoon. Fortunately, it is
> > she-who-must-be-obeyed that drives that one, mostly, and she tends not
to
> > give it much stoick, most of the time.
> >
> > Several V8 conversions I've seen on MGBs ran the exhaust out the front
of the
> > motor and thence under and back, rather than attempting to negotiate the
> > narrow firewall area, though I guess if you can get factory manifolds
you be
> > ahead of the game there.
> >
> > Your point about how much the frame can accomodate is well taken, but
using a
> > high tech smaller 6 or 4 can give you as much power as an 8, but without
the
> > frame twisting torque that accompanies it in a V8, and so you can
actually
> > get away with a little more top end power, if that's what you are after.
> >
> > As for me, the killer C and the Twincam race car are about as crazy as I
get
> > (with MGs, anyway - ask me about Jensens sometime). I've been meaning to
put
> > a big dollar sign on the Twincam tach after 7500 - best engine BMC ever
> > built, IMHO, when properly fettled (*note that I said BMC, as the later
rally
> > cars were pretty interesting indeed, but built by others).
> >
> > Now wouldn't a B with the new Honda S2000 engine do it for you, as a
modern
> > day equivalent? Rev it to 9000 rpm, and 250 bhp in a car that weighs
2000
> > pounds? More my style than a hulking (or in the BOP case, perhaps simply
a
> > squatting) V8.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
>
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