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From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:34:11 -0600
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At 07:57 PM 1/2/2012 -0500, Thompson Allan wrote:
>....
>I have had a 1960 MGA .... I am wondering if anyone has a 
>master-plan for a strip down to the frame and a full rebuild?
>....

As a more direct answer, here comes a proposed sequence for the 
work.  First thought is to take lots of pictures as you disassemble 
things so you recall how it should go back together later.

Strip off all external trim, bumpers, lighting fixtures, interior 
kick panels and windscreen.  Remove bonnet, boot lid, front valance 
panel, fenders and doors, keeping all door hinges and latch parts and 
any shims in original order for later reassembly.

The next step assumes the frame is still solid enough to be straight 
so it will serve as the alignment jig for the body.  Get right into 
removing rocker panels and cutting away any rusted sheet metal in the 
body sills and lower door posts, as far up as necessary to get rid of 
anything that is rusted thin or gone.  Buy or make replacement sheet 
metal parts, and rebuild the body sills and door posts and inner 
fenders as required.  This is dirty work.  The essence of rebuilding 
the MGA body is to start in the middle and build the body around the 
doors.  When repairing door posts, keep the doors close at hand to 
assure proper construction and alignment of the posts so the doors 
will ultimately fit and work properly.   An important point here is 
interface of four body mounting points, one each fore and aft of the 
doors on each side.  Find a complete section of my web site detailing 
body sill replacement.

You may also need to rebuild the boot floor if necessary, and smooth 
out the rear valance panel.  If the heater shelf is rusted out, then 
remove the engine for better access for that repair.  If the front 
end of the body needs work, then also do that while the body is still 
on the chassis.

When you have a complete and solid main body shell, then you can 
remove the body from the frame and set it on a pair of saw horses for 
additional work.  The main body shell weighs about 200 pounds, so it 
is possible to lift off with two healthy people, and one person may 
be able to tip it up on it side or set it down flat for subsequent 
work. When the body sills and door posts are in good condition the 
body is very strong and needs no bracing during handling.  Pick it up 
and handle it any way you like with any number of people or with a 
hoist.  Some people may piece together a body rotisserie, but it not 
required, as the MGA body shell will sit nicely at 90 degrees on its 
side sitting on the door posts.  With the body off you can clean up 
welds and other things inside and underneath the body.  It will be 
good to get at least as far as having the main body shell in primer paint.

At that point in time the body and chassis can be physically 
separated into different premisses for independent work, and do 
whichever you like first.  Since there will be lots of dirt and dust 
around for a long time, I suggest doing the chassis first so it is 
finished and clean with a drop cloth over it before you are painting 
the body.  My advice here is to store the engine out of the way and 
forget about it until near the end of the project.  An engine rebuild 
ties up a lot of money that doesn't need to be spent until later, and 
a freshly rebuilt engine may not fare well if it sits around idle for 
some years before it may be used.  For my first restoration the 
engine was the very last thing to be finished, and the day it was 
reassembled and installed I took the car for its maiden run on the expressway.

Chassis restoration is fairly straight forward stuff, as it is mostly 
structural and not much cosmetic.  Maybe remove the floor and tunnel 
and hand brake parts while the chassis is still on the 
wheels.  Gearbox, propshaft, rear axle and front suspension and all 
service lines come off in about one day.  At that point the bare 
frame becomes a project of its own separate from the rest of the 
chassis parts, and about this time you may wish you had a split 
personality and could work on several things at once.  You will spend 
lots of time cleaning and painting things.  Plan on lots of dirty work clothes.

The frame will likely need some welding work, especially around the 
battery carriers, floor rails, and inboard surfaces next to the floor 
boards.  As said, structural work, cut it, weld it, clean the welds 
up, and paint the thing.  Suspension parts are mostly cleaning and 
painting, replacing some bushings and rubber bits, and get it all 
reassembled.  If you think I'm trying to make it sound easy, I 
am.  It is mostly time consuming grunt work, but if you get into the 
mode of trying to make everything perfectly beautiful for concours 
show, all bets are off on calendar pages.

The gearbox is apart in half a day and back together in half a day 
when you have the parts in hand (only a few hours total for 
me).  Propshaft is mostly clean and paint, and maybe replace a 
U-joint or two.  Rear axle will be clean and paint, replace seals and 
gaskets, and maybe you need to replace differential thrust washers, 
and install Speedy-Sleeves for the the hub seals.  Leaf springs only 
disassemble if you want to concours pretty with painting, other wise 
replace bushings, clean and paint the springs.  Rear shock absorbers 
often need nothing more than clean and paint, and maybe replace the 
link with the rubber inset ball joint.  Reassemble rear axle and leaf 
springs with new rubber pads and shackle bushings.  Clean and paint 
fuel tank and mounting straps, reinstall with new packing rubber, 
fiddle with the fuel pump, fuel lines and brake pipes.  Find all the 
details on my web site.

Front suspension is a little more "tactical".  Front shocks may need 
to be rebuilt if they leak (farm it out, not a home shop 
job).  Swivel links may need new bi-metal bushings, some swivel links 
or swivel pins might need to be replaced if badly worn (rusted in the 
threads in a prior life).  Cleaning, painting, new rubber seals, 
repacking wheel bearings, and reassembly, all pretty simple 
stuff.  Rebuilding all of the brakes all around might be a day job or 
a week, depending on condition and parts needed.  The master cylinder 
may or may not need to be sleeved.  Steering rack usually only needs 
clean, paint, new seals and 6 ounces of gear oil, sometimes a couple 
of brass dampers and some shims, and maybe new tie rods ends.  I am 
somewhat optimistic about a lot of this, as I know the car was 
previously in driving condition.

Clean and paint the tunnel parts, some of which may need a little 
rust cutting and welding repair.  Buy or make new floor boards (find 
templates on my web site), sealed and painted, and get them installed 
(and sealed to the frame), along with the hand brake on the 
tunnel.  Gearbox and propshaft install any time, before or after the 
tunnel (but do put the rear mount bolt in from the correct side so it 
can be removed with tunnel in place).  You have some pedal parts to 
attend to whenever you get around to it.

Back to the body, go after repairs of fenders and other outer body 
panels, replacement of the outer rocker panel to match the door 
alignment.  Remember again, doors first, then match up the rocker 
panels and then mate the fenders for proper door gaps.  A huge part 
of appearance and impression of an MGA is fit and function of the 
doors, so take plenty of time to get it right.

Get all of the outer body panel repair work done so the body is test 
assembled before you even think about painting anything.  Most of the 
possible quality of a final paint job starts with the quality of 
preparation, surface finishing and primer of the outer body 
panels.  No cheating here.  Do not bondo over any rust or cracks.  Be 
sure the front grill fits well on the body nose before you transition 
from welding to priming.  Ditto for all of the exterior lighting 
fixtures and trim parts that will touch the paint.

Most people, with enough time and patience, can do a decent job of 
outer body panel repair and surface finishing.  This is mostly a 
matter of deciding early on that you want a good job, and don't leave 
big dents and lots of bondo.  When you are getting close to final 
smooth, it is time to decide if your personal skills are good enough 
for your expectations and desired final results.  Otherwise farm out 
the final surface finishing work and painting to a pro shop.

Up to this point, most of the restoration involves lots of grunt work 
and sweat equity, and not a lot of out of pocket expense.  Figure a 
couple hundred dollars for gearbox parts, a hundred (or two) for 
front suspension and steering parts, a couple hundred dollars in 
chassis paint (unless you going for powder coating everything), a few 
hundred dollars in cutting, welding and cleaning supplies, and 
anywhere from a double saw buck ($20) to a thousand dollars for inner 
body sheet metal (depending on whether you buy panels of form your 
own).  A body nose surround panel or a new fender would kill your 
tight budget.  But if you do it right, you may have a rolling chassis 
less engine and a body in primer paint for under $5000 in restoration 
cost.  The tab for me leading up to 1986 was about $2000 (and six 
hundred hours of grunt work).

After this you will need a fatter check book to pay for body 
painting, engine rebuilding, lots of interior and exterior trim parts 
required for reassembly (and I know I didn't mention side curtains), 
wheels and tires.  A huge portion of the expense comes after the 
chassis is rolling and the body is in primer, when you are about to 
reassemble it.

While the body is out for paint you may have time to restore the 
heater box, pedal box and pedal parts, and anything else that goes 
into the engine bay or in the cockpit.  Dash instruments and switches 
may want a touch up or repair.  Dash panel, splash panels, lower body 
trim strips, fuel tank and mounting parts and other little bits need 
painting by someone.  Decide what you will do about wheels (and tires 
later).  Time to rebuild the seats?  You really couldn't be everywhere at once.

Around the time that the body will be back from the paint shop, it 
may be time to disassemble the engine and send the component parts 
out for machine work.  As long as you're dealing with a pushrod 
engine the machining work should be done in a few weeks, parts are 
readily available, and it can be reassembled promptly.  Find a series 
of articles on my web site about engine rebuilding.

Reassembly is the fun part, and you can wear white gloves much of the 
time if you like.  Clean the shop well as a treat.  Engine may be 
installed any time, before or after the body.

The body may be almost entirely assembled on the sawhorses, including 
most of the wiring harness (side harness goes under the frame), 
lighting fixtures (not the grille yet).  Or drop the bare inner body 
onto the frame first (two people), followed by installation of the 
outer panels and external fixtures and trim.  Body goes onto the 
chassis with appropriate packing, some caulking, and a couple dozen 
bolts in one day.

After body is assembled and on the chassis, you get to install any 
interior insulation, under dash pad (recommended), carpet padding, 
carpeting, battery cover, spare tire cover(s), boot carpeting 
(optional but nice).  Be prepared to get a little sticky with glue 
for a day or two.  Center arm rest is supposed to be part of the 
tunnel rear carpet section.

Install any electrical devices that get screwed to the firewall, 
including the heater and wiper drive parts.  Pedal assemblies might 
wait until after carpeting.  The windscreen needs to be installed 
before the front kick panels.  Rear splash panels and cockpit trim 
rolls need to be installed before the rear kick panels, rag top frame 
after the rear kick panels, and side curtain stowage bag along with 
the rear trim roll.  Door top trim rolls need to be installed before 
door pockets and door panels, and side curtain attachment plates 
after door panels.

After carpeting, install the dash assembly (and after front trim roll 
for convenience).  The dash can be assembled and 3/4 wired on the 
work bench.  Then sit on the tunnel with dash on your knees while 
doing the main harness connections to the dash.  Install dash to body 
with three top screws and four bottom braces.  Include heater control 
(if fitted), other control cables, and finally the safety gauge which 
requires lines run through the firewall.  Install seats and steering 
column, side curtains, tonneau cover, convertible top.

Somewhere near the end, install oil cooler (if fitted) and 
horn(s).  Be sure the bonnet latch works before final installation of 
the grille, then the front valance panel and all bumper parts (while 
you curse a lot).  If not done earlier, the engine may be installed 
last.  A new engine will require a cam run-in session of 20 minutes 
at 2500 rpm, followed by re-torque the cylinder head and readjust valve lash.

If you have done it all right, you may take your number one squeeze 
along for the test drive.  For me the first time out of the garage 
was once around the block to be sure everything works, followed by a 
20 mile loop on the expressway and a stop for breakfast (after the 
all night session to install the engine).

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com 

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