Folks,
I have no idea if Shell did anything with the results - I have a
feeling that it was for their own consumption. I am very fond of
Shell because I got sponsorship from them when, as an idiot,
I messed around with TR2s which were then all the rage (oh god, that
dates me!). But Mike is right - the advertising industry has turned
a knowledge and data base open facility ( the Internet) into advert
delivery system - just as it did with television. On top of that it
plunged sport into a morass of eye blinding adverts and irritating visions.
Engineering knowledge is the only thing we can rely on - but then how
do you find unbiased engineering comments?
At 10:15 AM 11/01/2013 -0600, Duvall Video Productions wrote:
>Max it is a scam in that the internet is a modern network of bad information
>that marketers can take advantage of. From a statistical standpoint a few
>problems on the net is antidotal.
>
>When the Society of Automotive Engineers publishes a paper saying 960 ppm is
>enough and everyone sells break in oils for new cam/tappets, then marketers
>are preying on you.
>
>
>I'm curious if the study Barrie mentions below was published anywhere....
>
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:06:26 -0500
>From: Barrie Robinson <barrie@look.ca>
>To: "Stephen West-Fisher" <steve@coastaldatasystems.com>, "'MG List'"
> <mgs@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZDDP
>Message-ID: <E1TtQwc-00064p-El@gamma.look.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>I did a test for Shell and it showed that ZDDP was not needed
>.....................unless you were at full bore for days....and
>even with ZDDP that would wear things !!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:07 AM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:46:01 -0800
> > From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
> > To: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZDDP scam?
> > Message-ID: <CD14AED9.426F7%mvheim@sonic.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > How was it a "scam" when all motor oil produced over a period of a decade
>or
> > two included ZDDP as an antiwear additive, as a matter of course, without
> > any particular advertising or marketing emphasis?
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