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Subject: Re: [Mgs] '65B Restoration Status, How to Proceed
From: Pete Ryner via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:57:31 -0500
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I wouldn=E2=80=99t be concerned with a bondo job from a reputable shop, =
but if you need rockers and other major parts replaced, not just =
repaired I=E2=80=99d only take it to an experienced MG shop.  You have a =
great looking survivor that is worthy of a good restoration.  Wish mine =
was that clean. =20

Of course it isn=E2=80=99t my money and a good shop will cost thousands, =
typically more than what a completed MG is worth.  You didn=E2=80=99t =
mention where you live.  Is there a club in the area that may be able to =
help? =20

Good luck with the project
Pete

From: dave n via Mgs=20
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:04 AM
To: MG List ; MGB Group=20
Subject: Re: [Mgs] '65B Restoration Status, How to Proceed

do not take it to a shop that has not worked on old british cars.  they =
don=E2=80=99t have a clue and won=E2=80=99t do it right.  your car will =
be bondo=E2=80=99d and a mess.  it is well worth taking to someone who =
has experience. =20

From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs=20
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:52 AM
To: MG List ; MGB Group=20
Subject: [Mgs] '65B Restoration Status, How to Proceed

I apologize for the length of this note.....


My '65 B has been stuck in limbo for a few years now, as circumstances =
have made it difficult for me to free up any time to work on this =
project. But I expect to have some
time this coming year to re-start.... Here is the background -

I purchased this car in 1999 with the intention of restoring it to =
(mostly) stock condition, not to be a concours car but an enjoyable =
driver. 'Mostly stock' meant, in my mind,=20

that it wouldn't necessarily be as it came from the factory - I want to =
put an O/D in it as well as upgraded tires, etc. The condition of the =
car was pretty darn good for a $600,
non-running example. There is one rust hole in the passenger's side =
rocker, so I assume that there is additional inside and on the other, =
although frankly they are in better
shape than the ones on my '76 B! Also some rust in the rear fender. But =
overall, the body is in good shape. Mechanically, the parts are all =
there but the engine accessories

were all removed when I bought the car and the engine itself is seized. =
It is probably the incorrect engine for the car, being a G-series 3 main =
bearing car - it should be a GB
5 main bearing engine based on the build date. I have a couple of GB =
blocks that are rebuildable. I may also just take the '75B engine out of =
my '76B and use that, as I expect
the '76B - being pretty rusty - to only have a few years of life left in =
the body....


Current status is 'mostly' stripped. Wiring loom, engine/trans, steering =
column all remain in the car. Everything else has been removed and =
stored away.

I'm at the point where I need to make a decision about proceeding. I am =
assuming that my next step would be to remove the engine/trans and =
wiring, and I can proceed to have
the body looked at...? I don't really have the skills/tools to do the =
welding work necessary to replace the rockers, nor am I really that =
interested in learning... ;-) The nearest MG=20

'specialists' are over an hour away but there are several reputable body =
shops in my area (at which I have had work done on my 'regular' cars). =
I'm wondering about thoughts on=20

using a regular shop. And also what sort of things I can do in terms of =
prep to reduce the cost of this work.=20


Other comments appreciated.

Oh, and lots of pictures are here =3D> =
http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/library/1965%20MGB?sort=3D3&page=
=3D1


Thx,

Dan D


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<DIV>I wouldn=E2=80=99t be concerned with a bondo job from a reputable =
shop, but if you=20
need rockers and other major parts replaced, not just repaired =
I=E2=80=99d only take it=20
to an experienced MG shop.&nbsp; You have a great looking survivor that =
is=20
worthy of a good restoration.&nbsp; Wish mine was that clean.&nbsp; =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Of course it isn=E2=80=99t my money and a good shop will cost =
thousands, typically=20
more than what a completed MG is worth.&nbsp; You didn=E2=80=99t mention =
where you=20
live.&nbsp; Is there a club in the area that may be able to help?&nbsp; =
</DIV>
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<DIV>Good luck with the project</DIV>
<DIV>Pete</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:04 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>do not take it to a shop that has not worked on old british =
cars.&nbsp;=20
they don=E2=80=99t have a clue and won=E2=80=99t do it right.&nbsp; your =
car will be bondo=E2=80=99d and=20
a mess.&nbsp; it is well worth taking to someone who has =
experience.&nbsp;=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>Dan DiBiase via Mgs</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:52 AM</DIV>
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Proceed</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17213 dir=3Dltr>I =
apologize for=20
the length of this note.....<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17259 =
dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17260 dir=3Dltr>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_22104>My '65 B has been stuck in =
limbo for a=20
few years now, as circumstances have made it difficult for me to free up =
any=20
time to work on this project. But I expect to have some</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_22134 dir=3Dltr>time this coming =
year to=20
re-start.... Here is the background -</DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17261 =
dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17262 dir=3Dltr>I =
purchased this=20
car in 1999 with the intention of restoring it to (mostly) stock =
condition, not=20
to be a concours car but an enjoyable driver. 'Mostly stock' meant, in =
my mind,=20
<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17528 dir=3Dltr>that =
it wouldn't=20
necessarily be as it came from the factory - I want to put an O/D in it =
as well=20
as upgraded tires, etc. The condition of the car was pretty darn good =
for a=20
$600,</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17527 =
dir=3Dltr>non-running=20
example. There is one rust hole in the passenger's side rocker, so I =
assume that=20
there is additional inside and on the other, although frankly they are =
in=20
better</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17438 dir=3Dltr>shape =
than the=20
ones on my '76 B! Also some rust in the rear fender. But overall, the =
body is in=20
good shape. Mechanically, the parts are all there but the engine=20
accessories<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17432 dir=3Dltr>were =
all removed=20
when I bought the car and the engine itself is seized. It is probably =
the=20
incorrect engine for the car, being a G-series 3 main bearing car - it =
should be=20
a GB</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17470 dir=3Dltr>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21811 dir=3Dltr>5 main bearing =
engine based on=20
the build date. I have a couple of GB blocks that are rebuildable. I may =
also=20
just take the '75B engine out of my '76B and use that, as I expect</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21919 dir=3Dltr>the '76B - being =
pretty rusty -=20
to only have a few years of life left in the body....<BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17515 =
dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv9191085328yui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_17516 dir=3Dltr>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21198>Current status is 'mostly' =
stripped.=20
Wiring loom, engine/trans, steering column all remain in the car. =
Everything=20
else has been removed and stored away.</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21319>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21645 dir=3Dltr>I'm at the point =
where I need=20
to make a decision about proceeding. I am assuming that my next step =
would be to=20
remove the engine/trans and wiring, and I can proceed to have</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21359 dir=3Dltr>the body looked =
at...? I don't=20
really have the skills/tools to do the welding work necessary to replace =
the=20
rockers, nor am I really that interested in learning... ;-) The nearest =
MG=20
<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21646 dir=3Dltr>'specialists' are =
over an hour=20
away but there are several reputable body shops in my area (at which I =
have had=20
work done on my 'regular' cars). I'm wondering about thoughts on =
<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21647 dir=3Dltr>using a regular =
shop. And also=20
what sort of things I can do in terms of prep to reduce the cost of this =
work.=20
<BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21949 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21950 dir=3Dltr>Other comments=20
appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_22063 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_22017 dir=3Dltr>Oh, and lots of =
pictures are=20
here =3D&gt; <A id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_22016=20
href=3D"http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/library/1965%20MGB?sort=3D=
3&amp;page=3D1">http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/library/1965%20M=
GB?sort=3D3&amp;page=3D1</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21738 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21739 dir=3Dltr>Thx,</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21740 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1424346596016_21741 dir=3Dltr>Dan=20
D</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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