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Re: [Mgs] Got the car out yesterday - today was bad.

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Got the car out yesterday - today was bad.
From: David Ambrose via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:34:07 -0800
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I actually have one question for the list:

We have not been able to find a pilot bushing extractor that will fit. I 
see we can get some from Harbor Freight or Amazon, but how critical is 
that bushing? The one that's in there is nearly new and looks to be in 
very good shape, tho I haven't gotten any measurement tools in there.

On 3/12/2016 6:13 PM, David Ambrose via Mgs wrote:
>
> I've seen this move. In fact, I'm starring in it right now.
>
> Remove the starter. Stick your finger in the hole and feel the teeth 
> on the flywheel. If they are chewed up, we'll send a film crew over at 
> 10 tomorrow. ;-)
>
> We had the same thing happen. The ring gear had lost three teeth and 
> was chewed up elsewhere. The good news is that it's a $25 part from 
> Moss. The bad news is that you get to pull the engine to get to it. 
> Yes, a machine shop should be able to replace the ring gear. We found 
> a place south of here that specialized in flywheels, and had it 
> replaced in 20 minutes for $45. They also resurfaced the flywheel. You 
> should be able to find someone who can do this job, but you'll 
> probably have to present them with the flywheel and ring gear.
>
> We were planning to replace the transmission anyway, so this is mostly 
> an inconvenience. But, it's still a big job. A pencil, index cards, 
> and a box of sandwich bags are your friend.
>
> FWIW Car Quest carries a rebuilt starter for a reasonable price.
>
> Good luck,
> Dave Ambrose
>
> On 3/12/2016 5:00 PM, Paul Root via Mgs wrote:
>> My son and I got the MG out yesterday, after charging the battery for 
>> a day and a half. It got it started and home. But I was planning on 
>> replacing the battery, it wouldnâ??t hold a charge at the end of the 
>> season last year.
>>
>> Afterward, he and my wife went out shopping, he needed somethings 
>> before going back to college today. Anyway, they both thought the car 
>> sounded funny starting for the return trip. So they decided not to 
>> take the freeway. Probably smart.
>>
>> Half way, it stalled on them and wouldnâ??t restart. He punched it 
>> across the 4 lane road and up a little incline to a parking lot, and 
>> the called me. I came to the rescue, such as it was. Battery pretty 
>> much dead, we bump started it and got it home. Charged the battery 
>> over night, and this morning, tried starting it. The starter spun but 
>> did not engage, great.   I pulled the battery and went and got a new 
>> one. I had a group 26R in it, but decided to get the â??properâ?? group 
>> 24. I think that was a mistake. It fits, but with no room for error. 
>> And I had an error, my mounting bracket for the battery had threaded 
>> rods that were just too short for the group 24. Back to the store for 
>> longer rods.
>>
>> While there, I talked with the guy behind the counter, we both said 
>> it sounded like the solenoid not engaging, so after finally getting 
>> the battery secured, I pulled the starter, and back to the store again.
>>
>> It tested fine.  Then the guy noticed the teeth were chewed up.
>>
>> I think the funny sound was the starter was still spinning and 
>> bouncing off the flywheel gear ring.
>>
>> I tried looking down in the starter hole, and it sure looks like the 
>> teeth are angled all the way around. I bumped the engine around.
>>
>> So my options are replacing the ring gear and replacing the fly 
>> wheel. A machine shop can replace ring gears right?
>>
>> Iâ??m in the twin cities, so is that something Qualtity Coaches does,  
>> or do they just send it to a machine shop?
>>
>> I guess Iâ??m pulling the engine.   Let the engine alone/engine and 
>> transmission debate begin!
>>
>>
>> Paul.
>>
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