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Actually, when we finally got to my house, we swapped the luggage into =
my 1967 Barracuda convertible and headed up the freeway to catch up with =
the Melee. Reached the first night=E2=80=99s stop in Red Bluff by 7pm.
Not the first participants to have to pull in a backup vehicle=E2=80=A6
The plastic blade didn=E2=80=99t directly =E2=80=9Cpuncture=E2=80=9D the =
radiator, actually. But it was trapped inside the shroud, and wound up =
smashing several tubes right where they enter the top and bottom tanks =
(the blade being caught on the lip of the tank at each revolution, I =
think). I didn't even know that it had thrown a blade until I started =
disassembly =E2=80=94 I was assuming the 50+ year old radiator had just =
suddenly developed a stress crack after being transferred from one body =
to another.
With 5 or 6 tubes mangled top and bottom, it lost coolant instantly, and =
the radiator shop said it was irreparable other than by completely =
recoring it.
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Max Heim
'66 MGB
> On Sep 26, 2018, at 3:56 AM, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> A bummer that you couldn't participate in the melee, Max, I bet you =
were disappointed. Good recovery by Moss, though.=20
>=20
> Just tells you how fast these things spin, for a plastic blade to =
puncture a metal radiator!=20
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> Dan D
> '76B, '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
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> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:36 PM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =
> I haven=E2=80=99t said much on the list about my project. but I got my =
=E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D 66 B roadster together in time for the start of =
the California Melee on Sept. 8. Unfortunately, a blade flew off the new =
Moss plastic fan within the first ten miles and punctured the radiator, =
so that was as far as it got =E2=80=94 from the San Francisco Presidio =
to Marin Civic Center.=20
>=20
> I made the mistake of trying to get it to the next exit (it was a bad =
place to be on the shoulder, between the sound wall and 5 lanes of =
traffic doing 75+), which resulted in overheating and a blown head =
gasket. Total mileage to failure on this fan was 307 miles.
>=20
> Subsequent examination of the stub revealed an air pocket in the =
plastic right at the center of the base of the blade. Moss accepted my =
photo of this as evidence of a manufacturing flaw. This model of fan was =
already out of production (and out of warranty) =E2=80=94 I had =
purchased it as part of a large order back in 2015 when the car body was =
still in the paint shop.
>=20
> But regardless, they decided to send me a new fan ("new model" nylon =
7-blade fan) and a new aluminum radiator (the shop had told me mine was =
irreparable). I thought this was pretty decent of them.
>=20
> I just picked up my head at the machine shop where they had skimmed =
the surface and cleaned up the valves. In the meantime I had inspected =
the lifters based on a tip from Dave at British Motorsports in Campbell =
and found a few of them were showing pitting. By replacing them now I =
can save the cam.
>=20
> Now I just need to pick up the lifters and the gasket set and I should =
be able to have it back together this weekend.
>=20
> A few tips based on my experience:
>=20
> 1. Just shut it down. If I had stayed out on the freeway verge I would =
have saved the head gasket, and AAA would have picked me up in a timely =
manner. But since I had reported myself =E2=80=9Csafe=E2=80=9D and off =
the highway, it took 4 hours to get a tow.=20
>=20
> 2. Check your lifters every so often. I had replaced the cam and =
lifters due to lifter spalling sometime between 1998 and 2010. The new =
lifters were just starting to pit in 2018.
>=20
> 3. If you have a yellow plastic 7-bladed fan from Moss USA purchased =
prior to mid-2015, you may want to consider retiring it. I suppose if it =
hasn=E2=80=99t broken so far, it probably doesn=E2=80=99t have air =
bubbles in a critical location. But they had perhaps a dozen reported =
incidents. The current product being sold as part #434-332 is a =
different pattern by a different maker in a different material, so =
should not be a cause for worry.
>=20
> Buy British, Buy Best!
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> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Actually, when we finally got to my house, we swapped the =
luggage into my 1967 Barracuda convertible and headed up the freeway to =
catch up with the Melee. Reached the first night=E2=80=99s stop in Red =
Bluff by 7pm.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Not =
the first participants to have to pull in a backup vehicle=E2=80=A6</div><=
div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The plastic blade =
didn=E2=80=99t directly =E2=80=9Cpuncture=E2=80=9D the radiator, =
actually. But it was trapped inside the shroud, and wound up smashing =
several tubes right where they enter the top and bottom tanks (the blade =
being caught on the lip of the tank at each revolution, I think). I =
didn't even know that it had thrown a blade until I started disassembly =
=E2=80=94 I was assuming the 50+ year old radiator had just suddenly =
developed a stress crack after being transferred from one body to =
another.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">With =
5 or 6 tubes mangled top and bottom, it lost coolant instantly, and the =
radiator shop said it was irreparable other than by completely recoring =
it.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 26, 2018, at 3:56 AM, Dan DiBiase <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">A bummer that you couldn't participate in the melee, Max, I =
bet you were disappointed. Good recovery by Moss, though. <div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just tells you how fast =
these things spin, for a plastic blade to puncture a metal =
radiator! <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Dan =
D</div><div class=3D"">'76B, '65B</div><div class=3D"">Central NJ USA<br =
clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a></div></div></div><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 =
at 11:36 PM Max Heim via Mgs <<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D""><div class=3D"">I haven=E2=80=99=
t said much on the list about my project. but I got my =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D=
66 B roadster together in time for the start of the California Melee on =
Sept. 8. Unfortunately, a blade flew off the new Moss plastic fan within =
the first ten miles and punctured the radiator, so that was as far as it =
got =E2=80=94 from the San Francisco Presidio to Marin Civic =
Center. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
made the mistake of trying to get it to the next exit (it was a bad =
place to be on the shoulder, between the sound wall and 5 lanes of =
traffic doing 75+), which resulted in overheating and a blown head =
gasket. Total mileage to failure on this fan was 307 miles.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Subsequent examination =
of the stub revealed an air pocket in the plastic right at the center of =
the base of the blade. Moss accepted my photo of this as evidence of a =
manufacturing flaw. This model of fan was already out of production (and =
out of warranty) =E2=80=94 I had purchased it as part of a large order =
back in 2015 when the car body was still in the paint shop.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But regardless, they =
decided to send me a new fan ("new model" nylon 7-blade fan) and a new =
aluminum radiator (the shop had told me mine was irreparable). I thought =
this was pretty decent of them.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I just picked up my head at the machine =
shop where they had skimmed the surface and cleaned up the valves. In =
the meantime I had inspected the lifters based on a tip from Dave at =
British Motorsports in Campbell and found a few of them were showing =
pitting. By replacing them now I can save the cam.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Now I just need to pick =
up the lifters and the gasket set and I should be able to have it back =
together this weekend.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">A few tips based on my experience:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. Just shut it down. If I had stayed =
out on the freeway verge I would have saved the head gasket, and AAA =
would have picked me up in a timely manner. But since I had reported =
myself =E2=80=9Csafe=E2=80=9D and off the highway, it took 4 hours to =
get a tow. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">2. Check your lifters every so often. I had replaced the cam =
and lifters due to lifter spalling sometime between 1998 and 2010. The =
new lifters were just starting to pit in 2018.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>3. If you have a yellow plastic 7-bladed fan from Moss =
USA purchased prior to mid-2015, you may want to consider retiring it. I =
suppose if it hasn=E2=80=99t broken so far, it probably doesn=E2=80=99t =
have air bubbles in a critical location. But they had perhaps a dozen =
reported incidents. The current product being sold as part #434-332 is a =
different pattern by a different maker in a different material, so =
should not be a cause for worry.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Buy British, Buy Best!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div=
class=3D"">
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><div =
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style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px" class=3D"">Max =
Heim</div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px" class=3D"">'66 =
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