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Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: High priced V8
From: Jim Ray via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:43:27 -0400
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I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8 came 
with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a compression 
ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in the Rover version of 
the 3.5 engine. This is based on two sources, the MGB GT V8 Workshop 
Manual Supplement and personal observations of Barry Rosenberg's 
original right-hand drive car he imported from England.

Jim Ray

1980 MGB V8 conversion

On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote:
> I built from the ground up an MGB GT V8 because they were never 
> imported into NA - I had the "normal" MGB GT which did not have enough 
> grunt to overtake lorries on the highway.   The building of a factory 
> MGB GT V8 included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers and mild 
> cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).   The result was 
> enough grunt to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as well as those rice 
> burners.  Unlike the Ford powered rebuilds my "factory" MGB has 
> prefect weight distribution so is like handling a go-kart.  It sips 
> fuel and at highway speed it ticks over at just over 1k rpm.   On top 
> of this exceptionally blessed machine it looks great.  None of this NA 
> desire to have a BIG car and the added body work to achieve this.   
> Bags of groceries etc. room using the back trunk "door".  But only one 
> other passenger can be accommodated albeit not in comfort.   It is 
> only a family of two car!
>
> So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford engine. It 
> would be easier to buy this instead of going through the rebuild 
> process.  But why not a lighter legendary Rover V8 which could be 
> opened  to 5L - (but why? - 3.5 is enough!).  The 1974-plus MGBs have 
> engine bays configured to take the Rover engines. The other thing is 
> that there is obviously much deviation from the original MGB GT so 
> that it may not excite ardent MGB devotees.   But it does look 
> nice................
>
> Cheers
> Barrie Robinson
> Chairman
> Aston Martin Feltham Club
>
>
>
>
> On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>>
>> Completely NUTS!!!!  No way that car is worth that.
>>
>> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Lindsay via Mgs
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
>> *To:* MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] High priced V8
>>
>> Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely 
>> but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. 
>> But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS for 
>> that kind of money.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>
>>     Don't know if anyone posted this but
>>
>>     https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>>
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    <p>I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8
      came with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a
      compression ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in
      the Rover version of the 3.5 engine. This is based on two sources,
      the MGB GT V8 Workshop Manual Supplement and personal observations
      of Barry Rosenberg's original right-hand drive car he imported
      from England.</p>
    <p>Jim Ray</p>
    <p>1980 MGB V8 conversion<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie Robinson
      via Mgs wrote:<br>
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      <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I built from the ground up an
          MGB GT V8 because they were never imported into NA - I had the
          "normal" MGB GT which did not have enough grunt to overtake
          lorries on the highway.   The building of a factory MGB GT V8
          included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers and mild
          cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).   The
          result was enough grunt to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as
          well as those rice burners.  Unlike the Ford powered rebuilds
          my "factory" MGB has prefect weight distribution so is like
          handling a go-kart.  It sips fuel and at highway speed it
          ticks over at just over 1k rpm.   On top of this exceptionally
          blessed machine it looks great.  None of this NA desire to
          have a BIG car and the added body work to achieve this.   Bags
          of groceries etc. room using the back trunk "door".  But only
          one other passenger can be accommodated albeit not in
          comfort.   It is only a family of two car!<br>
          <br>
          So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford
          engine. It would be easier to buy this instead of going
          through the rebuild process.  But why not a lighter legendary
          Rover V8 which could be opened  to 5L - (but why? - 3.5 is
          enough!).  The 1974-plus MGBs have engine bays configured to
          take the Rover engines. The other thing is that there is
          obviously much deviation from the original MGB GT so that it
          may not excite ardent MGB devotees.   But it does look
          nice................<br>
          <br>
          Cheers<br>
          Barrie Robinson<br>
          Chairman<br>
          Aston Martin Feltham Club<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
        </font></font>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Completely NUTS!!!!  No way that car is
            worth that.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mgs <a
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              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Lindsay via Mgs<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> MGs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] High priced V8<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Probably
                a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely
                but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to
                each his own. But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy
                a fair condition 308GTS for that kind of money.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM
                    Chris Moog via Mgs &lt;<a
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Don't know if anyone posted this
                    but<br>
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