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Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

To: Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com>, Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
From: Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:56:39 -0600
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My '07 Prius has a metal door key slotted into the fob.  After you get 
into the car you plug the fob into a slot in the dash and then press the 
"Start" button and she fires up.

CR

On 11/13/2019 2:37 PM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
> Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has 
> push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be 
> removed in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, 
> you can always get in the car.
>
> And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start 
> button, the car will start....
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs 
>
>     So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of
>     our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key
>     became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should
>     carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing
>     making someone stranded in the middle of nowhereâ?¦
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Hans
>
>     71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot
>
>     *Van:*Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
>     *Verzonden:* woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46
>     *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
>
>     Hello folks,
>
>     OMG.   Isn't it amazing how current technology demands
>     complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broom
>     broom".  Now is having something in your pocket, and  switching on
>     and then pushing 'Start', But then everything these days is
>     "marketing groomed".   My new radio has oodles of "features" (most
>     of which I do not understand) but a lousy weak station reception -
>     my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car that the $$$$$$
>     "car" radio !!!!!!
>
>     Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-)
>
>     On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
>         As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the â??push for onâ??
>         solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as
>         unnecessarily complex.
>
>         Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off
>         toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it
>         on, sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is in.
>
>         But then, I think the â??start buttonâ?? on modern cars is
>         idiotic. So YMMV.
>
>         --
>
>         Max Heim
>
>         '66 MGB
>
>             On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson
>
>             I have a neat little module that does as you describe
>             except it has no warning light.  It is plugged into the
>             wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission
>             switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf
>             on the passenger side of the heater box.  It's all solid
>             state, has never given me any trouble.   I bought the
>             thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the
>             name of the seller.  I absolutely love the thing!
>
>             CR
>
>             On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
>
>                 
>
>                 I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from
>                 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD
>                 gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned
>                 the manual switch off and back on again.  That has a
>                 warning light to say it has been locked out, rather
>                 than one to say it is engaged.  More info
>                 herehttp://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer
>
>                 PaulH.
>
>
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    My '07 Prius has a metal door key slotted into the fob.  After you
    get into the car you plug the fob into a slot in the dash and then
    press the "Start" button and she fires up.<br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/13/2019 2:37 PM, Dan DiBiase via
      Mgs wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My
        Mazda CX-5 has push-button start, but there is a key inside the
        fob that can be removed in case of the battery in the fob
        dying..... So the the least, you can always get in the car. 
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push
          the start button, the car will start....<br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Dan D</div>
          <div>Central NJ USA<br clear="all">
            <div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38
          PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs &lt;<a
            href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">So true. This week my wife hardly could
                  get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw.
                  reason was that the battery of the key became empty.
                  Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should
                  carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent
                  such thing making someone stranded in the middle of
                  nowhereâ?¦</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Hans </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">71 BGT where everything is manual, unless
                  operated by foot</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                <div
style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
                  solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:windowtext">Van:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:windowtext">
                      Mgs [mailto:<a
                        href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                      <b>Namens </b>Barrie Robinson via Mgs<br>
                      <b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46<br>
                      <b>Aan:</b> <a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
                      <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Determine build date
                      for an O/D transmission?</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span
                  style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hello
                  folks,<br>
                  <br>
                  OMG.   Isn't it amazing how current technology demands
                  complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it
                  and "broom broom".  Now is having something in your
                  pocket, and  switching on and then pushing 'Start',   
                  But then everything these days is "marketing
                  groomed".   My new radio has oodles of "features"
                  (most of which I do not understand) but a lousy weak
                  station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH
                  better IN the car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!<br>
                  <br>
                  Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame<span
                    
class="gmail-m_-2712669027750614608moz-smiley-s1">:-)</span></span></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim
                  via Mgs wrote:</p>
              </div>
              <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                <p class="MsoNormal">As an interface designer, I am
                  puzzled by the â??push for onâ?? solution. It seems
                  somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily
                  complex. </p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Overdrive seems to me to be a
                    function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural
                    mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on,
                    sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is
                    in.</p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">But then, I think the â??start
                    buttonâ?? on modern cars is idiotic. So YMMV.</p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:10pt">--</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:10pt">Max Heim</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:10pt">'66 MGB</span></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43
                          AM, Charley Robinson &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:Charley38@twc.com";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;background:white">I
                            have a neat little module that does as you
                            describe except it has no warning light.  It
                            is plugged into the wiring between the
                            manual OD switch and the transmission
                            switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting
                            on the shelf on the passenger side of the
                            heater box.  It's all solid state, has never
                            given me any trouble.   I bought the thing
                            on line a few years ago but I don't remember
                            the name of the seller.  I absolutely love
                            the thing!</span><span
                            
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                            <br>
                            <span style="background:white">CR</span><br
style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
                            <br>
                          </span></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">On 11/12/2019 2:26
                              AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:</span></p>
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                        <blockquote
style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
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style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span><span
                              
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="background:white"><span
                                
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I
                                got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I
                                changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a
                                circuit that once out of an OD gear, it
                                locked it out semi-permanently until I
                                turned the manual switch off and back on
                                again.  That has a warning light to say
                                it has been locked out, rather than one
                                to say it is engaged.  More info here<span
class="gmail-m_-2712669027750614608apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                  
href="http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer";
                                  target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer</a></span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">PaulH.</span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></span></p>
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