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Re: [Mgs] Electrical Nightmare

To: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, "MGs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Nightmare
From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:34:42 -0000 P5VCbRIrGtgr3YZVovaehXdJrAxO9xUHnMUKXSmjN+cWWUCxBVW0trugk8ey6Uo68qRptxR+y9/+eNIyUUlV7um1Xp0qLQ9igb0=
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I have to say that's exactly what I expected for the tach.

Whilst the other could be an earth problem, it could also be a 12v =
supply problem.  But there are reasons I won't go into that make a =
single fault in either of those an unlikely cause, more likely that =
there are two related problems.

The easiest thing is to diagnose the horn circuit, and see where that =
takes you.  At the horn terminals you should see 12v on both the purple =
and purple terminals of the horn, leave all wiring connected to their =
terminals.  When the horn button is pressed, on a working circuit, the =
purple terminal will stay at 12v whereas the purple/black terminal will =
drop to zero volts. =20

With a non-working horn if the purple drops to zero then the problem =
lies back towards the fusebox, bad connections at the fuses and the =
spades are not uncommon.

But if both terminals stay at 12v then the problem lies back towards the =
horn button.

PaulH.


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  ...
  After this hollow victory I had to use the horn on the test drive.  =
Now the horn does not work, but when I push on the steering wheel stalk =
to activate the horn, the brake warning light comes on.  I just love =
electrical problems.  Not in my element here.  Any ideas?
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have to say that's exactly what I expected for the =

tach.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Whilst the other could be an earth problem,&nbsp;it =
could also=20
be a 12v supply problem.&nbsp; But there are reasons I won't go into =
that make a=20
single fault in&nbsp;either of&nbsp;those an unlikely cause, more likely =
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there are two related problems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The easiest thing is to diagnose the horn circuit, =
and see=20
where that takes you.&nbsp; At the horn terminals you should&nbsp;see =
12v on=20
both the purple and purple terminals of the horn, leave all wiring =
connected to=20
their terminals.&nbsp; When the horn button is pressed, on a working =
circuit,=20
the purple terminal will stay at 12v whereas the purple/black terminal =
will drop=20
to zero volts.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>With a non-working horn if the purple drops to zero =
then the=20
problem lies back towards the fusebox,&nbsp;bad connections at the fuses =
and the=20
spades are not uncommon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>But if both terminals stay at 12v then the problem =
lies back=20
towards the horn button.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr data-setdir=3D"false">After this hollow victory I had =
to use the=20
  horn on the test drive.&nbsp; Now the horn does not work, but when I =
push on=20
  the steering wheel stalk to activate the horn, the brake warning light =
comes=20
  on.&nbsp; I just love electrical problems.&nbsp; Not in my element =
here.&nbsp;=20
  Any ideas?</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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