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Re: [Mgs] Rubber-bumper B cooling system

To: "S.Carr" <britfan1@epix.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rubber-bumper B cooling system
From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2020 13:28:42 -0500
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On the '77 - '80 cars, the radiator was moved farther forward (I think to
allow room for the V8 engine) so the mechanical fan would no longer have
been any use. So they put the electric fan in (also, I assume because of
all of the emissions stuff, especially the catalytic converter, underbonnet
temps may have been higher). On my '76, when I need to reduce the level of
coolant, I disconnect the lower radiator hose. It's messy but fairly quick
and not too difficult. But yet, a lower petcock would have been nice.

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 12:51 PM S.Carr via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

> A friend who runs a small shop is working on a 1980 MGB=E2=80=94the first
> rubber-bumper B he=E2=80=99s encountered.  Neither he nor anyone else who=
 looks at
> the car can understand why the cooling system was designed with no openin=
g
> (cap) at the highest point to let fluid in or=E2=80=94more importantly=E2=
=80=94to let air
> out of the system, and with no tap at the bottom to drain the coolant.
>
>
>
> Anyone experienced in dealing with this cooling system have any
> suggestions?  He=E2=80=99s thinking of inserting a piece of tubing with a=
 filler
> cap into the upper radiator hose to speed up system refill and get the ai=
r
> out of the head=E2=80=94he suspects this is why the owner had overheating=
 problems.
>
>
>
> My =E2=80=9971 B/GT is in the shop next to this =E2=80=9980, and we wonde=
r why the later
> car had the radiator/oil cooler positions reversed and a dual electric fa=
n
> fitted.  The previous layout would seem to offer better cooling, and my c=
ar
> never had any overheating problems.
>
>
>
> I wouldn=E2=80=99t dare repeat his comments on the job of bleeding the cl=
utch
> system.  He=E2=80=99s an old-time racing mechanic and believes that parts=
 ought to
> be ACCESSIBLE.  We are convinced that British car designers were getting
> revenge for England=E2=80=99s having lost the Revolutionary War=E2=80=A6.
>
>
>
> Thank in advance,
>
> Sarah Carr
>
> =E2=80=9971 B/GT in PA
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On the &#39;77 - &#39;80 cars, the radiator was moved fart=
her forward (I think to allow room for the V8 engine) so the mechanical fan=
 would no longer have been any use. So they put the electric fan in (also, =
I assume because of all of the emissions=C2=A0stuff, especially the catalyt=
ic converter, underbonnet temps may have been higher). On my &#39;76, when =
I need to reduce the level of coolant, I disconnect the lower radiator hose=
. It&#39;s messy but fairly=C2=A0quick and not too difficult. But yet, a lo=
wer petcock would have been nice.<div><br></div><div>Dan D</div><div>Centra=
l NJ USA<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" d=
ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://dandib=
iase.cbintouch.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a>=
</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 12:51 PM S.Carr via Mg=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"=
EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_7969240240846205291WordSection1"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">A fri=
end who runs a small shop is working on a 1980 MGB=E2=80=94the first rubber=
-bumper B he=E2=80=99s encountered.=C2=A0 Neither he nor anyone else who lo=
oks at the car can understand why the cooling system was designed with no o=
pening (cap) at the highest point to let fluid in or=E2=80=94more important=
ly=E2=80=94to let air out of the system, and with no tap at the bottom to d=
rain the coolant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif">Anyone experienced in dealing with this cooling system have a=
ny suggestions?=C2=A0 He=E2=80=99s thinking of inserting a piece of tubing =
with a filler cap into the upper radiator hose to speed up system refill an=
d get the air out of the head=E2=80=94he suspects this is why the owner had=
 overheating problems.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">My =E2=80=9971 B/GT is in the shop next to this =E2=80=
=9980, and we wonder why the later car had the radiator/oil cooler position=
s reversed and a dual electric fan fitted.=C2=A0 The previous layout would =
seem to offer better cooling, and my car never had any overheating problems=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
I wouldn=E2=80=99t dare repeat his comments on the job of bleeding the clut=
ch system.=C2=A0 He=E2=80=99s an old-time racing mechanic and believes that=
 parts ought to be ACCESSIBLE.=C2=A0 We are convinced that British car desi=
gners were getting revenge for England=E2=80=99s having lost the Revolution=
ary War=E2=80=A6.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif">Thank in advance,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Sarah Carr<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=E2=80=9971 B/GT in PA<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://=
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