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Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk

To: Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 22:59:01 +0000 (UTC)
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 The "beeper" is a great idea.Mike M

    On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 PM PST, Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@g=
mail.com> wrote: =20
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 Hi Mike,=C2=A0 =C2=A0It is supposed to be self-cancelling, though that doe=
s require about 1/4 turn of the steering wheel to engage the cancelling mec=
hanism.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a tri=
ck in itself, you will see from the left the steering column. =C2=A0On it s=
hould be a black spring clip that has a squared bump shape. =C2=A0That bump=
 should be on same plane as the =E2=80=9CC=E2=80=9D shaped plastic claws on=
 the turn signal control. =C2=A0With wheels straight ahead and the steering=
 wheel centred, that bump should be mid-way between the two claws.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0The way it is supposed to work is that when the turn lever is set for=
 turns, the spring clip, as it swings around on the column, contacts one of=
 the C claws, dislodging it from where it is parked, and the system cancels=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0On most roads in CT, the radius of turns at intersections is =
great enough that the self-cancel does not engage. =C2=A0I put an inexpensi=
ve beeper into the circuit at the flasher unit, as the little indicator lig=
hts are dim.=C2=A0 Some have fitted brighter LEDs in place of the signal in=
dicators. Having bloodied myself sufficiently when installing LEDs into the=
 instruments, I will leave the signal indicators to some distant time in th=
e future when I might have the dashboard out. =C2=A0=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s my =
opinion that the easiest way to address your question is to ensure that the=
 cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound-making device/bee=
per, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and intersections built wi=
th greater radius than those in the UK when these cancelling devices were t=
hought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sensitive devices used=
 in TDs, TFs and MGAs.Bob

On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wrote=
:


Just wondering.=C2=A0 Is the turn signal stalk on my 69 MGB GT supposed to =
be self canceling? As it is right now, I have to remember to put it back in=
 the middle position after making a turn.=C2=A0 This is something I am used=
 to because my Bugeye has a three position switch on the dash that you have=
 to click back to the center position after making a turn.=C2=A0 On the Bug=
eye though, it's a little bit easier because there is a huge bright green l=
ight right in front of your face on the dash.=C2=A0 In fact, you can't igno=
re it at night it is so bright blinking at you.=C2=A0 Not so with the MG.=
=C2=A0 The lights are two little dim illuminated arrows.=C2=A0 While they a=
re somewhat noticeable at night, you just don't notice these lights in the =
daytime.=C2=A0 Sorry, just sitting around on a Sunday morning and needed so=
mething to complain about.Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT1960 Bugeye1956 Austin Hea=
ley BN2

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                    On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 PM PST, Robert's Ne=
w iPad &lt;mgbobh@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Mike,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;It is supposed=
 to be self-cancelling, though that does require about 1/4 turn of the stee=
ring wheel to engage the cancelling mechanism.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a trick in itself,=
 you will see from the left the steering column. &nbsp;On it should be a bl=
ack spring clip that has a squared bump shape. &nbsp;That bump should be on=
 same plane as the =E2=80=9CC=E2=80=9D shaped plastic claws on the turn sig=
nal control. &nbsp;With wheels straight ahead and the steering wheel centre=
d, that bump should be mid-way between the two claws.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&nbsp; &nbsp;The way it is supposed to work is that when the turn lever is=
 set for turns, the spring clip, as it swings around on the column, contact=
s one of the C claws, dislodging it from where it is parked, and the system=
 cancels.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;On most roads in CT, the radiu=
s of turns at intersections is great enough that the self-cancel does not e=
ngage. &nbsp;I put an inexpensive beeper into the circuit at the flasher un=
it, as the little indicator lights are dim.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; So=
me have fitted brighter LEDs in place of the signal indicators. Having bloo=
died myself sufficiently when installing LEDs into the instruments, I will =
leave the signal indicators to some distant time in the future when I might=
 have the dashboard out. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s m=
y opinion that the easiest way to address your question is to ensure that t=
he cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound-making device/b=
eeper, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and intersections built =
with greater radius than those in the UK when these cancelling devices were=
 thought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sensitive devices us=
ed in TDs, TFs and MGAs.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv3136677636yqt2347117774" id=3D"yiv3=
136677636yqt87853"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Jan 3, 2021, at 3=
:24 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Just wondering.&nbsp; Is the turn signal stalk on my 69 MGB GT s=
upposed to be self canceling? As it is right now, I have to remember to put=
 it back in the middle position after making a turn.&nbsp; This is somethin=
g I am used to because my Bugeye has a three position switch on the dash th=
at you have to click back to the center position after making a turn.&nbsp;=
 On the Bugeye though, it's a little bit easier because there is a huge bri=
ght green light right in front of your face on the dash.&nbsp; In fact, you=
 can't ignore it at night it is so bright blinking at you.&nbsp; Not so wit=
h the MG.&nbsp; The lights are two little dim illuminated arrows.&nbsp; Whi=
le they are somewhat noticeable at night, you just don't notice these light=
s in the daytime.&nbsp; Sorry, just sitting around on a Sunday morning and =
needed something to complain about.<div id=3D"yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElem=
entTracker_1609705432469">Mike MacLean</div><div id=3D"yiv3136677636yMail_c=
ursorElementTracker_1609705443149">1969 MGB GT</div><div id=3D"yiv313667763=
6yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705453045">1960 Bugeye</div><div id=3D"yiv3=
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