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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Running hot
From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 10:43:36 -0800
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I have had a plastic fan blade break and puncture the radiator. I think =
this was rather a fringe case, however. Autopsy revealed the fan had a =
molding flaw =E2=80=94 there was large bubble in the plastic right at =
the base of the blade that broke off =E2=80=94 it only lasted 307 miles =
from new. Also, it is doubtful that the blade would have seriously =
damaged the radiator if it hadn=E2=80=99t become trapped in the radiator =
shroud. As it was, it acted as a kind of rotary hammer, which was too =
much for the 50+ year-old brass core.

Anyway, as for Rick=E2=80=99s problem, if it doesn=E2=80=99t involve a =
head gasket leak (as suggested), then I think that leaves serious =
blockage in the block somewhere. Possibly this could be located with a =
thermo gun. I have had to remove freeze plugs and break up deposits with =
a pick in an old iron block V8 before.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB



> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Charles Robinson <ccrobins@ktc.com> =
wrote:
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> I had a metal fan blade on my '69 B break loose at speed on the =
highway.  It punctured the radiator.  That's the only time the car ever =
stranded me.
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> CR
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> On 1/31/2021 12:54 PM, h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote:
>> That's an interesting piece of information!
>> So now I have to find an MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan.
>> My 1971 imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has =
the
>> metal blades...
>> I once read a story of a broke metal fan blade protruding through the =
bonnet
>> (hood).
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>> 71 BGT
>>=20
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Robert's New iPad
>> Verzonden: zondag 31 januari 2021 01:51
>> Aan: rolindsay@yahoo.com
>> CC: MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Running hot
>>=20
>>     In 1972, MG issued a service bulletin that said all the cars with =
metal
>> fans should have them replaced by the dealer, at no cost, by the =
plastic
>> fan.   When I came across the bulletin, a couple of years back, I =
bought a
>> plastic fan and replaced the metal one.
>>    Plastic fan seems to move more air and to be quieter too. As I =
always
>> keep fan belt very loose, I found its lower weight reduced squeal =
when
>> jabbing the throttle.
>>    If the electric fan moves more air than the OEM metal one, why not =
remove
>> the metal one?   Unless the two are moving air at exactly the same =
velocity,
>> one fan will be interfering with the other, not enough to cause this
>> overheating, but unnecessary.
>> Bob
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 7:04 PM, rolindsay@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Is fan turning the right direction? I have heard about that but
>>>> never seen it.
>>>    I verified that the metal fan is mounted correctly. And verified =
that
>> the electric fan that I mounted is blowing the right way (the second =
time I
>> wired it :-).
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
have had a plastic fan blade break and puncture the radiator. I think =
this was rather a fringe case, however. Autopsy revealed the fan had a =
molding flaw =E2=80=94 there was large bubble in the plastic right at =
the base of the blade that broke off =E2=80=94 it only lasted 307 miles =
from new. Also, it is doubtful that the blade would have seriously =
damaged the radiator if it hadn=E2=80=99t become trapped in the radiator =
shroud. As it was, it acted as a kind of rotary hammer, which was too =
much for the 50+ year-old brass core.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Anyway, as for Rick=E2=80=99s problem, =
if it doesn=E2=80=99t involve a head gasket leak (as suggested), then I =
think that leaves serious blockage in the block somewhere. Possibly this =
could be located with a thermo gun. I have had to remove freeze plugs =
and break up deposits with a pick in an old iron block V8 before.<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<div><br class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb =
1, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Charles Robinson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com"; class=3D"">ccrobins@ktc.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">I had a metal fan blade on my '69 B break loose at speed on =
the highway.&nbsp; It punctured the radiator.&nbsp; That's the only time =
the car ever stranded me.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">CR<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 1/31/2021 12:54 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; class=3D"">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>=
 wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">That's an =
interesting piece of information!<br class=3D"">So now I have to find an =
MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan.<br class=3D"">My 1971 =
imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has the<br =
class=3D"">metal blades...<br class=3D"">I once read a story of a broke =
metal fan blade protruding through the bonnet<br class=3D"">(hood).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D"">Hans<br class=3D"">71 =
BGT<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br =
class=3D"">Van: Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; Namens Robert's New =
iPad<br class=3D"">Verzonden: zondag 31 januari 2021 01:51<br =
class=3D"">Aan: <a href=3D"mailto:rolindsay@yahoo.com"; =
class=3D"">rolindsay@yahoo.com</a><br class=3D"">CC: MGs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] =
Running hot<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In =
1972, MG issued a service bulletin that said all the cars with metal<br =
class=3D"">fans should have them replaced by the dealer, at no cost, by =
the plastic<br class=3D"">fan. &nbsp;&nbsp;When I came across the =
bulletin, a couple of years back, I bought a<br class=3D"">plastic fan =
and replaced the metal one.<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Plastic fan =
seems to move more air and to be quieter too. As I always<br =
class=3D"">keep fan belt very loose, I found its lower weight reduced =
squeal when<br class=3D"">jabbing the throttle.<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If the electric fan moves more air than the OEM metal =
one, why not remove<br class=3D"">the metal one? &nbsp;&nbsp;Unless the =
two are moving air at exactly the same velocity,<br class=3D"">one fan =
will be interfering with the other, not enough to cause this<br =
class=3D"">overheating, but unnecessary.<br class=3D"">Bob<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Jan 30, 2021, at 7:04 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:rolindsay@yahoo.com"; class=3D"">rolindsay@yahoo.com</a> =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Is fan turning the right direction? I have heard about that =
but<br class=3D"">never seen it.<br class=3D""></blockquote> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I verified that the metal fan is mounted correctly. =
And verified that<br class=3D""></blockquote>the electric fan that I =
mounted is blowing the right way (the second time I<br class=3D"">wired =
it :-).<br class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br=
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