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Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 167, Issue 3

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 167, Issue 3
From: Mogrits <mogrits@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:11:01 -0400
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> > Of course, there is a chicken/egg problem with public charging stations.
> > No one wants to spend a lot of money installing public charging stations
> > until there are a lot of EVs to use them. Conversely, many buyers are
> > reluctant to buy an EV because there are not many public charging
> stations.
> > That is why one of the features of the proposed infrastructure bill now
> > being debated in Congress includes funding to build charging stations.
>
>
Can someone explain for me this concept of a "public charging station"? The
ones I've seen in my town, available to the public, do not appear to have
card swipes or coin slots. Are these "public charging stations" free?
(Regardless of your answer, they are not "free"). So how long can the
taxpayers afford to pay for peoples "gas money"? If the government is
building charging stations, are they now in direct competition with gas
station owners? Is this a good thing? In most States, only authorized
Utility companies can legally sell electricity. If the States decide to
"charge to charge", or if charging stations got privatized, are the
charging station owners selling anything at their "pumps" other than
electricity and is this legal? Will the Utility companies end up owning the
"gas pumps" at these private stations and will there be competition from
street corner to street corner for lowest $/kwh or will people have to buy
their gas from a monopoly which is what electric companies are?

None of this has been well thought out, and it will have major
repercussions. Power generators will need ever more coal and natural gas
while domestic sources have been bankrupted and shut down. The environment
will suffer overall, both in CO2 (not that there's anything wrong with CO2)
but most especially, the additional global mess that will happen from
lithium and coal mining and petroleum extraction in countries with less
controls than we have here in the US. A lot of people will get rich off the
back of US taxpayers, but the "environment" will only get worse.

Warren

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e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">&gt; Of course, there is a chicken/egg problem with publ=
ic charging stations.<br>
&gt; No one wants to spend a lot of money installing public charging statio=
ns<br>
&gt; until there are a lot of EVs to use them. Conversely, many buyers are<=
br>
&gt; reluctant to buy an EV because there are not many public charging stat=
ions.<br>
&gt; That is why one of the features of the proposed infrastructure bill no=
w<br>
&gt; being debated in Congress includes funding to build charging stations.=
<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can someone explain for me this co=
ncept of a &quot;public charging station&quot;? The ones I&#39;ve seen in m=
y town, available to the public, do not appear to have card swipes or coin =
slots. Are these &quot;public charging stations&quot; free? (Regardless of =
your answer, they are not &quot;free&quot;). So how long can the taxpayers =
afford to pay for peoples &quot;gas money&quot;? If the government is build=
ing charging stations, are they now in direct competition with gas station =
owners? Is this a good thing? In most States, only authorized Utility compa=
nies can legally sell electricity. If the States decide to &quot;charge to =
charge&quot;, or if charging stations got privatized, are the charging stat=
ion owners selling anything at their &quot;pumps&quot; other than electrici=
ty and is this legal? Will the Utility companies end up owning the &quot;ga=
s pumps&quot; at these private stations and will there be competition from =
street corner to street corner for lowest $/kwh or will people have to buy =
their gas from a monopoly which is what electric companies are?</div><div><=
br></div><div>None of this has been well thought out, and it will have majo=
r repercussions. Power generators will need ever more coal and natural gas =
while domestic sources have been bankrupted and shut down. The environment =
will suffer overall, both in CO2 (not that there&#39;s anything wrong with =
CO2) but most especially, the additional global mess that will happen from =
lithium and coal mining and petroleum extraction in countries with less con=
trols than we have here in the US. A lot of people will get rich off the ba=
ck of US taxpayers, but the &quot;environment&quot; will only get worse.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Warren</div></div></div>

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