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Re: [Mgs] Driveshaft flange

To: Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Driveshaft flange
From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:58:02 -0700
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Sorry, didn=E2=80=99t pick up on that detail.=20

If that=E2=80=99s the case, then I wouldn=E2=80=99t expect the part to =
be carried by Moss, though=E2=80=A6

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:05 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote:
>=20
> He said it was a V8, in the US, it's very unlikely the car is stock.
>=20
> On September 20, 2021 12:39:32 PM PDT, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net =
> Well, yeah, but then you just confuse the next owner. How will he know =
where to source his u-joint?
>=20
> At least, that=E2=80=99s my response to a lot of ad hoc =E2=80=9Cupgrade=
s=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 it may be convenient for you, at this time, but it =
is not serving to "preserve the breed" (hifalutin phrase), and it may =
even be making you a dreaded PO.
>=20
> It should be simple enough to find the bona fide article, and no =
modifications or technical expertise required.
>=20
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>=20
>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:03 PM, lrc@red4est.com =
>>=20
>> Parts is parts. that is something you'd should be able to find a =
crossover or maybe upgrade to a beefier u-joint for.=20
>>=20
>> On September 19, 2021 2:18:47 PM PDT, jimray@hartcom.net =
>> I am looking for a driveshaft flange for my 1980 MGB. Moss has them =
on backorder (268-010) and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have them =
in stock. The unit I am looking for is 3 - 9/16 inches in width and has =
a 3 inch o/c bolt pattern. The u-joint opening appears to be 15/16 but =
this could be off a fraction or two because it is pretty beat-up.
>> =20
>> I=E2=80=99m in the middle of finishing a drivetrain refurbishment and =
can=E2=80=99t or don=E2=80=99t want to wait for Moss to restock their =
supply. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>> =20
>> Jim
>> 1980 MGB V8
>> =20
>> Hartwell, GA
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class=3D"">Sorry, didn=E2=80=99t pick up on that detail.&nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If that=E2=80=99s the =
case, then I wouldn=E2=80=99t expect the part to be carried by Moss, =
though=E2=80=A6</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:05 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:lrc@red4est.com"=
 class=3D"">lrc@red4est.com</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">He said it was a V8, in the US, =
it's very unlikely the car is stock.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On September 20, =
2021 12:39:32 PM PDT, Max Heim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; =
class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: =
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Well, yeah, but then you just =
confuse the next owner. How will he know where to source his =
u-joint?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">At least, =
that=E2=80=99s my response to a lot of ad hoc =E2=80=9Cupgrades=E2=80=9D =
=E2=80=94 it may be convenient for you, at this time, but it is not =
serving to "preserve the breed" (hifalutin phrase), and it may even be =
making you a dreaded PO.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It should be simple enough to find the =
bona fide article, and no modifications or technical expertise =
required.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: =
13px;">--</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;">Max Heim</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;">'66 MGB</div></div></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep =
20, 2021, at 12:03 PM,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:lrc@red4est.com"; class=3D"">lrc@red4est.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span class=3D"" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;">Parts is parts. that is something you'd =
should be able to find a crossover or maybe upgrade to a beefier u-joint =
for.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><br class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">On September 19, 2021 2:18:47 PM PDT,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:jimray@hartcom.net"; class=3D"">jimray@hartcom.net</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: =
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I am looking =
for a driveshaft flange for my 1980 MGB. Moss has them on backorder =
(268-010) and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have them in stock. =
The unit I am looking for is 3 - 9/16 inches in width and has a 3 inch =
o/c bolt pattern. The u-joint opening appears to be 15/16 but this could =
be off a fraction or two because it is pretty beat-up.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I=E2=80=99m =
in the middle of finishing a drivetrain refurbishment and can=E2=80=99t =
or don=E2=80=99t want to wait for Moss to restock their supply. Any help =
will be greatly appreciated.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;">Jim<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;">1980 MGB V8<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;">Hartwell, GA<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D"" =
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text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div =
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