keep it up, I'm enjoying it.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Don Simmons wrote:
> One more time-- and I won't ever mention IFS again!!! LOL. Heidts own
> literature states that the Superide crossmember is one piece and is
> completely different from their Mustang ll crossmember.It also states that
> every piece was designed specifically by Heidts for the Superide and that it
> is your assurance of the right geometry. From their catalog "All new
> Superide-NOT a Mustang conversion kit"
> Now they also have a Superide ll kit that uses Mustang ll dropped spindles.
> But it also says that it uses a geometry SIMILAR to Mustang ll.
> I hope that I have not sounded grouchy in my replies. I really like this
> list because everyone is so well mannered and polite, and I didn't intend
> to start anything when I suggested a different vendor. And I apologize to
> anyone that is tired of reading about this subject.
> Don Simmons
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>
> To: "'Old Trucks'" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:57 AM
> Subject: FW: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
>
>
> > Heidts Superide suspension uses Ford geometry. The only difference is
> that the control arms are tubular and this design allows them to eliminate
> the strut rods. The crossmember is the exact same crossmember that is
> supplied with their economy Mustang II kits. Therefore the geometry is the
> same. Heidts knows enough not to mess with a proven system.
> >
> > The "bolt on" suspension on your '62 is held on by 7 bolts per side...
> That's at least three per side more than most Mustang II bolt on kits... I
> wonder why GM would have used so many more bolts... could it be because it's
> safer? Hmmmmmm.
> >
> > Bill Whittaker
> > '53 3100 Hemi
> > Built Like A Rock
> > With Mopar Stock
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Simmons [mailto:tasimmons@cbnn.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:37 PM
> > To: Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY; 'Old Trucks'
> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
> >
> >
> > Allright, I have to reply to this. If you look at Heidts "Superide"
> > suspension,
> > #1. It is claimed to be better than their Mustang ll kit!
> > #2. It uses no Mustang ll parts.
> > #3. It doesn't say where the geometry for this crossmember comes from or
> how
> > they came up with the geometry for this crossmember.
> > Now----- does this mean it is inferior? Oh, and by the way even though I
> > would probably go with a weld on crossmember, my stock suspension on my
> 1962
> > Chevy 1/2 ton is only bolted on with 7 bolts on each side. And Chevy
> > designed it to be used as a truck!!!!! Seems to have been good enough for
> > them. HMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Don Simmons
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Whittaker Bill G Civ ASC/SMY" <Bill.Whittaker@wpafb.af.mil>
> > To: "'Old Trucks'" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:58 AM
> > Subject: [oletrucks] RE: IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
> >
> >
> > > While you're checking him out... Ask him who's geometry he uses. Just
> > because he chooses to manufacture IFS systems with GM parts doesn't mean
> he
> > uses GM geometry just like a lot of guys making Mustang II systems don't
> > completely use Ford's geometry. (No, I'm not going to disguise the word.)
> > There's nothing on Jim Meyer's web site that tells you anything about his
> > geometry except to say it's "correct". Also he has at least one kit that
> > has an adjustment to eliminate bump steer. It's always been my experience
> > that if the suspension geometry was correct in the first place this isn't
> a
> > problem. This adjustment could be necessary for just one application, I
> > don't know. But it is something to take into consideration when evaluating
> > suppliers, especially ones who's engineering your going to trust your life
> > to.
> > >
> > > I'll say this again... I'm not picking on Jim Meyer's products perse'...
> > what I am saying is thoroughly investigate whatever system you're
> interested
> > in and make your own decision. There's a bunch of manufacturers out there
> > making similar claims and many of them are short on design and long on
> > pretty words and pictures. If Jim Meyers makes a system that looks good
> to
> > you, and your satisfied with his engineering and geometry, then go for it.
> > >
> > > Bill Whittaker
> > > '53 3100 Hemi
> > > Built Like A Rock
> > > With Mopar Stock
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian _ [mailto:pkupman57@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:24 AM
> > > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [oletrucks] IFS, but not to open any can or worms again
> > >
> > >
> > > well, today i was looking though my magazines for some things i need to
> > > order to get the body of my jeep done, and while i was looking through
> my
> > > december 1999 issue of Petersons Custom Classic Trucks, i found in the
> > back,
> > > right under a Classic Tube ad, a ad for Jim Meyer raceing products. it
> > would
> > > be a 4" x 4.5" ad with the address and phone number. apparently hes got
> 12
> > > different kinds of set ups along with air ride suspension things for
> > them,..
> > > the "perfect fit for your truck" that someone mentioned earlier
> apparently
> > > means he's got cross members and other componets that are direct
> > > replacements for TF trucks. which means hes atleast dont SOME measureing
> > and
> > > figureing with thos frames to be able to manufacture and sell components
> > for
> > > these trucks,.... personally, im going to check him out,. ive always
> > wanted
> > > to keep my stock I-beam, but a kit that uses all chevy front end
> parts,...
> > > hummmmm. sure as hell beats ford, oh excuse me, f**d, parts
> > > just my 2 cents.
> > > Brian M
> > > Atwater, CA
> > > '57 Chevy 3200
> > > '89 Chevy Silverado
> > > '46 Willys CJ-2A
> > > '00 Dodge Neon
> > >
> > > wish list
> > > TF 1.5--2 ton flat bed
> > >
> > >
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