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 I have been told you should not jump start newer cars as well, I have
one of those jump toys but never used it yet.
 This is straight from FORD for the 2023 F-150
https://www.ford.com/support/vehicle/f150/2023/how-to-videos/video-library/more-vehicle-topics/6319506656112?name=f-150-jump-starting
 So Ford is saying its ok to jump start but don't connect the negative
of the dead battery car to the negative terminal, instead to a
ground.   I damaged my F-150 battery by having a battery charger on it,
apparently Ford says you can't do that without removing that little
black box on one of the terminals (forget which one now and too lazy to
walk outside and check). When I changed my battery, I had to do the new
battery reset with the ODBC scanner, if you don't reset, the car will
not know there is a new battery and possibly overcharge the new
battery...that is what the stealership says anyway.
   mike
On 11/30/23 2:12 PM, JohnT Blair wrote:
> I come to the well of knowledge looking for information.
> My sister just emailed me about her having a friend jump start her
> late model Lexis from his F150 pickup. He got her started and then
> drove his truck to someplace and parked it. When he tried to start
> it, it wouldn't start. He had it towed to a dealership and they said
> his battery was fried.
> In my sister's email she said that she has found out that you
> shouldn't jump start a car made from 2000 on.
> My question is why and how do you start a car with a dead battery?
> I realize that the jumping car should be running, so that gives the
> possiblity of too much current being drawn from the jumping car as
> it's got a good battery and an alternator capable of putting out well
> over 100A! So the jumped car's dead battery looks like a short
> circuit. Bad - lots of current!
> So disconnecting the dead battery and putting it on a battery charger
> to give it a more controlled charge should be OK.
> But that's not easy to do in a parking lot.
> What about these jump boxes, especially the little ones like
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/NEXPOW-Battery-Jump-Starter-1500A-Peak-12800mAh-Car-Starter-up-7-0L-Gas-5-5L-Diesel-Engine-12V-Portable-Booster-Power-Bank-Box-LED-Light/534414164?adsRedirect=true
>
> But that is supposedly capable of 1500A!!!
>
> I did a google search on the subject and found an article talking
> about all the problems that you can have doing this. But the article
> really didn't say if these problems were to the jumping or the jumped
> car or both.
>
> So what is the collective knowledge about this? What am I missing?
>
> JohnT,
>
>
> John T. Blair WA4OHZ    email: jblair1948@cox.net
>
> Va. Beach, Va Phone:Â (757) 495-8229
> 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)Â Â 48 TR1800Â Â Â
> 48 #4 Midget
> 65 & 77 Spitfire  71 Saab Sonett III  65 Rambler Classic  65 Volvo
> P1800
> Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/
> Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org
>
> If you can read this            - Thank a teacher!
> If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!
>
> From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:
> e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."
> In God We Trust
> Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for
> oneself; freedom from control or restriction
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Â I have been told you should not jump
start newer cars as well, I have one of those jump toys but never
used it yet.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Â </div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Â This is straight from FORD for the
2023 F-150</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.ford.com/support/vehicle/f150/2023/how-to-videos/video-library/more-vehicle-topics/6319506656112?name=f-150-jump-starting";>https://www.ford.com/support/vehicle/f150/2023/how-to-videos/video-library/more-vehicle-topics/6319506656112?name=f-150-jump-starting</a></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Â So Ford is saying its ok to jump
start but don't connect the negative of the dead battery car to
the negative terminal, instead to a ground.   I damaged my F-150
battery by having a battery charger on it, apparently Ford says
you can't do that without removing that little black box on one of
the terminals (forget which one now and too lazy to walk outside
and check). When I changed my battery, I had to do the new
battery reset with the ODBC scanner, if you don't reset, the car
will not know there is a new battery and possibly overcharge the
new battery...that is what the stealership says anyway.<br>
</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Â Â Â mike</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/30/23 2:12 PM, JohnT Blair wrote:<br>
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<div class="default-style"> I come to the well of knowledge
looking for information. </div>
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<div class="default-style"> My sister just emailed me about her
having a friend jump start her late model Lexis from his F150
pickup. He got her started and then drove his truck to
someplace and parked it. When he tried to start it, it wouldn't
start. He had it towed to a dealership and they said his
battery was fried. </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> In my sister's email she said that she
has found out that you shouldn't jump start a car made from 2000
on. </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> My question is why and how do you
start a car with a dead battery? </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> I realize that the jumping car should
be running, so that gives the possiblity of too much current
being drawn from the jumping car as it's got a good battery and
an alternator capable of putting out well over 100A! So the
jumped car's dead battery looks like a short circuit. Bad -
lots of current! </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> So disconnecting the dead battery and
putting it on a battery charger to give it a more controlled
charge should be OK. </div>
<div class="default-style"> But that's not easy to do in a parking
lot. </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> What about these jump boxes,
especially the little ones like </div>
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<p class="default-style"><a
href="https://www.walmart.com/ip/NEXPOW-Battery-Jump-Starter-1500A-Peak-12800mAh-Car-Starter-up-7-0L-Gas-5-5L-Diesel-Engine-12V-Portable-Booster-Power-Bank-Box-LED-Light/534414164?adsRedirect=true";
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<p class="default-style">But that is supposedly capable of
1500A!!! </p>
<p class="default-style">I did a google search on the subject
and found an article talking about all the problems that you
can have doing this. But the article really didn't say if
these problems were to the jumping or the jumped car or both.</p>
<p class="default-style">So what is the collective knowledge
about this? What am I missing?</p>
<p class="default-style">JohnT,</p>
<p class="default-style"><br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">John
T. Blair WA4OHZ    email: <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net";>jblair1948@cox.net</a></span></p>
<div class="default-style"> Va. Beach, Va            Â
   Â
Phone:Â (757) 495-8229 </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) Â Â
75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)  48 TR1800   48 #4 Midget  </div>
<div class="default-style"> 65 & 77 Spitfire  71 Saab
Sonett III  65 Rambler Classic  65 Volvo P1800 </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<div class="default-style"> Morgan:Â Â Â <a
href="http://autox.team.net/morgan/"; moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://autox.team.net/morgan/</a>
</div>
<div class="default-style"> Bricklin:Â Â Â Â <a
href="http://www.bricklin.org/"; moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.bricklin.org</a> </div>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<p>If you can read this            - Thank a teacher! <br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">If
you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!</span></p>
<div class="default-style"> Â </div>
<p><span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">From
Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:</span> <br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Â Â Â Â
e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."</span> <br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Â Â Â Â
In God We Trust</span> <br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Â Â Â Â
Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and actingÂ
for </span> <br>
<span
style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica,
sans-serif;">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
oneself; freedom from control or restriction </span> <br>
<br>
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